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No one is, its actually a great discussion and if we all agreed it wouldn't be a discussion! 😉 Sometimes Iwill word things as factual as they are, although it will feel like i'm saying its not the producers fault, which it defo it is some departments. If you come back to your part you want to focus on which is game production quality, then you have to realise the gaming customers culture and behaviour has changed dramatically. Most here want games to knock ourselves out but that takes time. Gamers today seem to not have 'time' to wait for development, which is crazy but it flows into other things - looking at you TikTok. Thats why Indie games are surging recently because they can be knocked out far quicker than AAA games as we once knew them. Mobile games too are surging because of the ease to pick up and play. You also have to consider game mechanics and gamer behaviour around the playloop. We want variety and thats hard to build brand new content in every game to give the user a different new experience everytime - usually you see it games that take years to develop, which is why we are still playing those games as they can evolve those by patching in new content every so often. Games that are successful today, get that Playloop working really well hidden under the graphics and functions of a game. You won't see brand new genres as much now because its all been done. So its down to variations that we get pulled to. Just like Music as we're now in the 2nd cycle of music being rehashed from original music into something new. Very rare you come across very original new music content, as there are only so many chords and ways to create it. This all being said, if it was about next gen in terms of what I have 'liked', it is the new Haptic controller idea which works well on certain games. The loading feels like a crappy benefit to receive but its funny if we tried to go back and play games like Gran Turismo and Destiny on an old PS4, the loading times would be insanely slow and probably make us drop off the game quicker.

Looking back what I wrote, I'm sure that Sony have some faults because of their connections to their own developer companies. However, I don't use Switch games as a comparison, because Nintendo have their own unique exclusives and far less of them over the years. Their model of quality over quantity is far superior to other consoles, its just we all love to have more games 😉 The market within 10 years is going to be more about VR and AR, thats been inevitable for a while. Unfortunately, i'm with you and I don't entirely enjoy VR games, but it is something the next generation are growing up with. You only have to ask @tronic44 about Augmented Reality becoming the next big thing. Its quite a way off but its getting there. Looking forward to trying to the Magic Leap out in November to see how much it has advanced. Everything is cyclical. Microsoft were way ahead when the OG Xbox came out, and eventually some years later Sony took control with the PS4 and their exclusives. It takes some years because games take time to develop in their strategies. I think now we're just seeing the natural closeness because technology doesn't grow as quick as it used too. I mean, our eyes can only see as good as they can....mine probably doesn't see much difference after HD now! 😅

I'd agree - however, I'm not sure its Sony's fault. Its next generation games and developers that seem to be not be able to unlock something truly amazing. However tldr is 2 things - 1) As we get near top end graphics, the jumps get smaller like @Tar-Eruntalion said, and 2) gamers expectations change so ppl dont wanna wait 7 years for development of a game anymore. Can't have the entire cake and eat it type of scenario me thinks.

I still have Escape From Tarkov to play before this and I'd suggest that you look at that too. @phil bottle will kill me otherwise 😅

Nice to see so much interest on this! As I believe you play the story progression on whoever is the main party leader, theres chances we can have multiple games going at once which i'm cool with. Its defo a weekend game for me - I'll try and set a few sessions up and lets go from there! Happy to try crossplay too if that helps anyone 🙂

Just making sure we have this captured somewhere as it'll be their next title in the series after Mirage. Clearly going to Japan, as a potential Shinobi - something I don't believe they have done before so seems like a great idea if you ask me. When they did Pirates in Black Flag, it really worked due to the completely work away from the usual pattern of stealthy medievel people you played. Similar to Origins in Egypt but I haven't played that one, just heard good things from FGers. Not much more detail I can find just yet, or even a date when its likely to hit us.

And Haaland, for the record, is a joke. Yes, he scores tap ins and easy goals. But thats it - he makes them look incredibly easy. Plus he seems to be partially in a mold like the old strikers as he can handle far more direct football than all the tikki-takka football....although he can live with that too it seems so far. Nice to see a striker in our league that may also be breaking 30+ goals like we used to get back in the 90s.

I think it will do us a favour hopefully as we seem to be so bad in Jan and Feb that the break should mean the team is refreshed and ready to go! I definitely think we'll see a different type of table come end of May next year.

I did really enjoy our time on this game when we played it last time. Anywhere else that explains how much they've expanded on the story at all @phil bottle? This may be a decent one to start some multiplayer story progression together again if people wanted to try this out now? Guessing the survival PC lot may fancy some group up sessions on weekend maybe.... @TurboR56Mini @RenFengge @Tar-Eruntalion @tronic44 @Diddums @crispymorgan @Greboth and anyone else fancying PC survival group ups, what do you all think?

What a birthday present for me, now what am I going to play when they close their services as I open my present?! In all fairness - good concept, bad timing. Launching just before Covid, with rising prices and rare availability of technology they needed really didn't help its survivability.

1 million percent looking forward to it! Just going to air this now as Thursdays are my daughters football training and its starting later now (7.30-8.30) because we have to find a bigger pitch as they grow up - just so you all know if i miss the first race most weeks 😭 Happy for us to look at some Saturday/Sunday evenings still though if that can work for people?

Couldn't agree more. I know I tried to convince people to buy it at the time but now its free, no reason not to get a full racetrack on it. I would say versus Wreckfest and GTA Races its probably not as smashy smashy bang bang but defo worth a good hour of racing fun all together.....plus we could actually make some FG tracks eventually with their design your own track system.

😉 Yeah, its falling into significance this game unfortunately. However, every time I see it, I get the urge to go back to Black Flag... 😅

Happy birthday @Ajay !! Hope you have a cracking day pal 😎💃❤️

Well, that was quick! Hows it running? Feel the difference already I assume?

I like the look still - just might wait a little longer for it to go down from £25.

Glad you had a good experience, Pat. Make sure you share your Xbox CoD tag and we'll how crossplay and in-game chat works when it comes out. Yeah, I aint getting forced into selecting Dead Silence. My experience and stats felt like I was doing enough without the need for it anyway. Way more powerful perks to use I think.

Matty @Misneach_ smashed me this week, I had one of the worst weeks ever although it wouldn't have mattered even if they had turned up!

So, what else do you need for the build??

Thanks @Greboth, I need to get back into a rhythm of playing on the PC and playing in general. I don't think i'm the only one either! When do you think is best times to get on this one and give it a go? Is there any key and interesting items to know about that we can create in this version of the game?

Not my type of game I'd usually go for but let us know how it feels @Riff Machine 👍