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I thought you've been improving each week mate. This past Tuesday's races I genuinely think you are getting closer. The qualifying was showing that for sure. Another good set of races, albeit impromptu on Tuesday. I think if we can get more and more of us getting the game on and giving it a real good go, i'd like to get the little league up and running again....I made medals and everything ages ago for GT7 but we've waiting for the right time 😄

I miss FM so much but more when it was Championship Manager. The additional toggles and tweaks on the latest games absolutely blow my mind! Maybe worth picking it up on one of the platforms to chill in the background whilst the boring stuff in life carries on...might end up with a different career it seems 😅

Multiplayer at all? We miss a survival game to try out as a group. Looks okay, a little Sim City esque but with additional combat perhaps. I wouldn't pick it up on my own I think.

Always a niche game so don't see how that wasn't expected. Its pretty solid in my eyes - just likely needs more content to drop within the next 3-6 months and hardcore Payday gamers will slowly transition over. I would still recommend people get this for the price that it is. Its not trying to be a AAA game.

Quests make this game so god damn good. Objectives are key to keep people coming back, working through the steps. I think too many people moaned back then that they needed all quests to be 'accessible', but the whole point sometimes in games is that you have to do something unique to get a certain weapon or piece of gear. I think the grind has gone which overall means its better...but when they started teh Seasonal model, its a bit like a TV series we've watched over the years. May start well and people enjoy it as its a routine but over time will become stale. They knew they had to shake up seasons at some point, just don't know why they weren't already planning for that - i'd have started planning at the start of seasons or even before to know whats next. Most possibly the best experiences ever lived at FG. Raids are insanely good. Nothing beats 6 players cracking a puzzle together, relying on teammates to help you and you stepping up to help in return. So many epic fails, we should've recorded far more often for the memories.

Never gonna stop singing when I'm playing Rocket League for sure @Lurch 🤣🤣

A mate of mine at work is getting it. I want it, purely for the turn based action. Oh how I've missed that. Looking at the trailer I do wonder how large it is. For it to have minigames and rematch bosses, it does feel like its more just trying out the experience with their characters more than any type of story.

Part of me feels like we're either ignoring City's issues altogether or its waiting for the pivotal moment to effectively relegate them to League 2, abit like in Italy they did the same with Juventus. Makes me think City's lawyers are threatening the EPL with everything they possibly can. Still, even with Everton's 10 points deducted, they're not bottom 👀🤣

We struggled a bit with Bowser's Fury 3D so i'm wondering if this will be better given its 2D. Sounds like it would suit us playing this one as a 4 much better so may get it for Christmas Day fun game to play as a family.

A game for Xbox and PC it looks like. Very XIII-esque and looks really fun.

PvP worked in Destiny at the start very well as it was never really badged the uber competitive MP PvP game, more so an addition to the game that was phenomenally well backed by loads of players. Problem is over time gamers expectations change, especially when it lands as well as it did, people expect more and more and had to be better stuff. I just don't think Bungie ever said PvP was going to be the thing to do in Destiny, player power made them look at it in a different light, wanting more stuff and then a way to get competitive in it. If PvP wasn't taken as seriously, just like in D1, then I think its not in that bad of a state. Its ludicrous for a reason and its why I think we all loved it so much. At least now after 10 years you have a mode where its now pretty much about the guns and not supers, which is what everyone wanted...but no one is probably giving it a go because its a little too late for some.

It would be cool to get non-Destiny players views here sometimes too...I mean, in my eyes so much success and memories were built from CoD and Destiny like @Diddums and @Riff Machine said. Insane thinking back how it all happened through the years.

Yeah, I never want to be too deep and profound to say 'this game is dead', mainly because how many times have we heard that in the last 10 years and its still here lol. I think games that are in your life so regularly like this one, just need to evolve and move with the audience and its hit a spot where that hasn't matched for a while now. Having said all that, and with the new season actually kicking off some crazy stuff until something that hasn't been talked about for a while (The 15th Wish), I think the hype i've seen over the last 48 hours shows it still has the ability to shine. And it can shine and be played alongside us feeling really crap that some good people got let go from this studio. There are so many people at FG that never really ventured into this game and I know that if we actually managed to get them on it, we'd have an absolute blast because their minds would be blown away by so much stuff thats in it. No other game can compare to it, so maybe the break for a little bit longer will just do us all some good. No need to care for the grind anymore, just hang out, complete some fun missions and quests together and have a blast like we've done on so many other games.

Thanks for the spot, James. Theres a few things that got knocked out over the weekend and this was one. I need to find the code and change the colour as its there but extremely faint on dark mode. Its available on light mode in case people need to see it for abit whilst I add to my list to fix 👍

Ahh man. I've been putting this off for abit, not too dissimilar to how I've chosen to shelve the game for the past 6-9 months. I think Chad hits the rusty old nail on the head spot on tbh. With a live service game, if you end up being too same-y for too long people get apathy and the interest each season isn't as hyped as they may want it. Everything is cyclical in the world, so usually you need to be ready to cycle round to the next way of working to make the game feel fresh to players. I also believe the other pain point is not being able to engage fully with new players for YEARS. I think whilst some of the UI changes have been getting better over time to support new players, the main issue remains around the whole package and how they've got into to a stage of a game that looks fundamentally different to D2 when it started (which would've been made to flow in the right way from the start). You could argue that we/they need to create the game again as Destiny 3 or rebrand to Destiny 1, to effectively make people feel like they are starting from scratch. I also think how they've bundled the game up, it is so confusing to new and existing players on which bundle you are supposed to buy to get into the game. The way that people have been let go is incredibly frustrating to watch, especially when I held this company in a great light on how they do things with people. Don't fall into that trap though that just because of the layoffs that Destiny is going anywhere because it can't. This is Bungie's current only revenue stream, so they need it to pick up the cash for them to keep delivering updates continuously. I could see the inevitable delay in The Final Shape (not confirmed yet but pretty obvs) dropping with some nostalgia stuff to help players move back into the game - I really think that they need to find a way to get the game engine to house all the previous missions, stories, etc, into the game so people can take that journey. I would love to see that all content too is easily bought in one reasonably priced bundle - it feels like the only way to get people into every bit of content to do together. However bad this may all be currently for Destiny, we all know that this statement is so god damn true, even now. That is incredible given how long its been out and how many games have tried and failed to get to their level of gameplay. I think its why I and hopefully others here, will always be open to this game when the time and game feels in the right spot. I would want to see the Light/Dark Saga with as many FGers as possible, regardless of what the next 6 months holds for the game. Kind of feels right to share and make new memories with everyone at such a pivotal moment for the franchise.

Couldn't agree more mate. This games updates, which are also free, have been getting better and better. That weekly challenge looks great and engaging. I also tried a weekly 'boosted' quick race with Sophy 2.0. Did it on intermediary level which was just 2 laps and it tested me in terms of driving standards. Good warm up quick races and a little cash to pick up too.

Got to hear your review on your podcast too and I am still keeping it on my wishlist - as you say, it could be worth saving a few quid whilst we wait for the next sale, only because the amount of games to be played and coming out before Christmas. Nice one Chad 👍

Don't know if any of you played Condemned in the past? If so, is this anything like it at all?

I think everyone just has their popcorn ready for the next annoucement. I literally have no idea what to expect given how much news and info comes out about this.

Ahh, I see now @crippled_viper. On some links you have to remove the format. When you paste that link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9nNyg5BkJc without clicking the info to 'Paste as plain text instead'. It will stay as a link like you can see. But if you paste it again like i will do below and then click that straight away, it embeds just fine. We have mods to fix if needed which gets done as soon as we see it too, which will also help but the process hopefully now i've explained should be all good for you buddy. Everyone else's videos seem to be working via the same route. (I've seen your idea on guides so I do think stuff like this could have a place somewhere too 😄).

You're copying the wrong link Matt. When you're on YouTube, you should always click 'Share' than copy the link and just paste it. Thats what everyone else does and embeds all okay then 🙂

Class update with the cars. New track seems to be a rally track, so a little bit meh but we should probably have a go on it for lolz and giggles. That Porsche looks and sounds awesome. Cheers for sharing @phil bottle

If we did end up more regular, I would look to find a regular time myself, but James is right that we would need a DM to pull us through each time. Elliott @Middle Class Caveman is class at it, because he also helps the group learn as you go along but I know his time is precious, plus he does it separately with another group of his IRL friends too I believe. Would F2F sessions work, even if they were spread out?