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Like Phil said the other day, keep it civil @cyberninja2601 @J4MES OX4D so we can keep on having good debates of late. I enjoy the game and I can realise others won't but hope that others will also try to see both sides too so we can have a good debate about the bits that people feel aren't so good. Just keep it about the game and not individuals, goes for everyone this does. Fanks 🤗

We may be missing something though about the fact that this one is made by Infinity Ward so returning maps are likely to come from only their assets than the others. Its why Dome is back and I would expect Rust to come in eventually as James mentioned before as they did create it. I wouldn't know if maps have crossed over between developers but I wouldn't expect much have, if ever. Whether we like it or not, the Developers are asked by Activision to churn out a new game every couple of years which means they dedicate a large portion of that time to the Campaign and re-use old assets where possible. If you don't re-use assets its widely known brand new games take around 7 years to create, especially AAA games. So within a few years they focus efforts on what Activision want. Yep, old maps after a while are annoying if thats all you get but thats where I'd expect a new map every so often to balance out the map pool. I don't see that from FGers and most other places I read about CoD. Damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. I want to be clear I don't like whats happened to most CoDs and the model that Activision have been following for years. What we all agree here I can largely see is that CoD needs a culture shift under the hood to a different type of Multiplayer development pattern, maybe one that matches the likes of Overwatch. But what we can do is also realise that this isn't where they are now, so I'm looking at this game on its on merit on how fun the gameplay is and how much content we have to play on it. Season 2 looks okay. Not bad, but not super great either. I think sometimes we'd all do ourselves some favours if we could open our minds to how it feels on both sides rather than just saying a game is crap 'just cos'. I see the same thoughts in how Destiny was over the years and it turned out stronger. Not sure this franchise will go the same way, but for right here right now, there is no surprise to me why so many FGers are enjoying a CoD game for once, and maps not being new won't change that feeling a massive amount. Maybe by Season 3 though it will as burnout starts to hit if the game goes too long without enough variety in the game. Meaning New and Returning content btw 🙂

@J4MES OX4D, you'd take a returning map from a previous game over no map surely? I mean, even if you go by what most people have said about CoD over the years you could argue that no one wants new content, just all the old stuff put into one game 😄

@techno, understandable as thats what the Season 2 visual shows. You'd hope the player feedback would convince them to drop another one later down the line. @IRaMPaGe, always a good 'we've listened' moment for them to use in a month or so 😄 I do expect to play more DMZ/Warzone that Season 1 so we'll what happens.

I can't wait for it to come if i'm honest. Hoping to get a little time over the weekend to focus on the early part of the story. Nice to see a single player game that sits outside the usual top AAA studios we're usually seeing that is performing well straight out of the blocks. The delays we've had seemed worth the wait.

Whilst the concept would be one most of us would buy into, it splits the MP pools further as not everyone will buy them and personally I think if you update a game over time and paid our money upfront like we have, I'd expect the maps to be given for free when they do get released. I noticed it straight away so went to look at what it meant last night before posting it here. I think we knew most subsequent maps would come off the larger Warzone map, but that makes total sense from a developer viewpoint as its the same assets they've worked on and already in the game so doesn't make the game any larger content wise. For a 2-3 month Season, i'm still holding out that we'll get at least 1-2 more maps they haven't told us about mid-season like we did in Season 1. If that is the case, then I'd be okay with that. If they don't release anymore maps mid-Season then i'd agree that its disappointing.

I've always said most Battle Passes aren't worth their money as its all pretty much cosmetic if you care for that stuff. Map wise it depends if the 'Battle Maps' will have a part of it that can do 6v6 like Taraq does. I did say we'd get 3 to 4 maps with one maybe being new. I do expect a further map to be introduced mid-season like Season 1 had 2 reintroduced.

Love the look at this and the idea it has more of a story has got my interest. Its only £12 at Game Collection right now. The second one is out already it says? Do you know what is different or is it just the same stuff with added Co-op play? One thing that I'm interested to know too - Does the 3rd person camera view work well or is it annoying? It may be because of the screenshot above that i'm only thinking this.

My son is going to absolutely love this. Game looks as solid as the first one and thats a good thing.

It is only 2 months. The first few months for any live Online game is to fix bugs post launch. That's the same with any system release so I can see why we haven't got anything since then. They shouldn't with many returning bits of content, but that is the way games work now, whether we like it or not. The reason for that is really gamers in a nutshell have changed habits - we gorge games and effectively overplay until we get literally burnt out and if we had all content we then would know that nothing is coming in 2 months and move on quicker than we do now. To dripfeed, timegate content when you think of it with those words feels painful and wrong. However, it is what keeps us coming back to the game so we don't burn out as quickly as we used to do years ago...that was when everyone would moan we would be getting nothing or maybe 1 update/DLC in the entire year (and probably have to pay for it). Back to Season 2, Infected and Gun Game is back in the game in a week's time which is awesome from an FG Private Match point of view. I'm super hoping they add One in the Chamber considering that worked really well in MW2019. It'll be interesting to see the tweaks they make to the UI as mentioned in the different threads we have going. I'm hoping the Groups functionality can expand a little more to at least connect the Clan Tag together as thats the most logical step to make. Weirdly somewhat intrigued for a new Season in CoD for the first time. Its nice to actually feel good about the franchise for a change.

Good point, I suppose its because I like to own the game anyway so if I ever go back to it I can (and clearly some collector disease is stuck within me too 😄). Once my gaming space has had a revamp its likely that it will have a specific place to be easily switched on more often. Until then, when the wife stops giving me a hard time about spending money (even though 3412% less than her) I'll keep this on the PSN wishlist.