Ghosts 2 or Modern Warfare 4 next?

[GazzaGarratt 11,049]

What do you reckon? Senior comms manager shared this today. Experts say MW4 but many comments think it's leading to an ending for Ghosts 1 story.

 

 

I'd rather see it be MW4 than Ghosts 2 as that storyline was pure quality back in the day and never had the chance to play MP much at all.

 

[NCA-Paendrag 2,758]

It's missing an option. None.

 

That said, Ghosts 1 was probably one of the worst COD's I've played and I enjoyed MW3, so. 

[phil bottle 9,758]

It's missing an option. None.
 
That said, Ghosts 1 was probably one of the worst COD's I've played and I enjoyed MW3, so. 

Same as that [emoji41]

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[J4MES OX4D 10,034]

Black Ops 4 bombing so badly they're having to hype the next COD already🤣

 

Ghosts was the beginning of the end and a terrible brand. There was more people still playing BO2 than on the 1st weekend that Ghosts was released and it was the game which made Activision start covering up player counts. after that.  The maps were dreadful or simply far too big - Siege, Chasm, Stonehaven and Freefall remain some of the worst ever in the franchise plus things like the dog, IED's and other things just made it a horrible experience.

 

I'd rather they left Modern Warfare alone too as I don't want that brand having its memory tarnished any more. I do think it'll probably be MW4 though and the 'leak' is more of a red-herring. A lot of the staff that worked on COD 4 and MW2 who left for Respawn have returned to the studio so it would be ideal if they jumped back into a brand in the series they knew rather than try and salvage something out of Ghosts. 

 

*Just read that Jason Schreier from Kotaku who has sources in the industry says it's not Ghosts 2 so that's a relief and logical. Franchise is a joke now though so no matter what they do, as soon as microtransactions are added, the game is done for and the honeymoon is over.

[MrBiron 1,453]

I actually didn't mind Ghosts. The campaign was solid and I quite enjoyed the MP.

Some of the maps were huge and it seemed like the game was supposed to be 9v9 but they couldn't get it to work. Siege(mentioned above) was actually a decent map but it was just a bit too big. Same with Stormfront.

I'd rather have Ghosts 2 as the game ended on a cliffhanger. But we'll get MW4 as there is no originality left in COD any more.

[GazzaGarratt 11,049]

Black Ops 4 bombing so badly they're having to hype the next COD already🤣
 
Ghosts was the beginning of the end and a terrible brand. There was more people still playing BO2 than on the 1st weekend that Ghosts was released and it was the game which made Activision start covering up player counts. after that.  The maps were dreadful or simply far too big - Siege, Chasm, Stonehaven and Freefall remain some of the worst ever in the franchise plus things like the dog, IED's and other things just made it a horrible experience.
 
I'd rather they left Modern Warfare alone too as I don't want that brand having its memory tarnished any more. I do think it'll probably be MW4 though and the 'leak' is more of a red-herring. A lot of the staff that worked on COD 4 and MW2 who left for Respawn have returned to the studio so it would be ideal if they jumped back into a brand in the series they knew rather than try and salvage something out of Ghosts. 
 
*Just read that Jason Schreier from Kotaku who has sources in the industry says it's not Ghosts 2 so that's a relief and logical. Franchise is a joke now though so no matter what they do, as soon as microtransactions are added, the game is done for and the honeymoon is over.

Is BO4 bombing that badly? I really don't think it's a bad game at all, the Black Ops series out of all of them is something that we should at the very least acknowledge they have parts of a solid game.

@Brede and @Phil - nah, we're gonna get one, whether you want it or not!

[ChaosGladiator 811]

I loved Ghosts, great variety in weapons, killstreaks and maps. Stonehaven was and will always be one of my favourite maps from all the CoD games simply because it was so different from the usual 3-lane bullshit we mostly get. If you wanted to run SMG’s you could easily do that with the anount of cover the map provided, if you wanted to use snipers? Not an issue! There’s a bunch of open sniper lanes, enjoy! AR or tactical rifle? Be my guest, plenty of chokepoints to hold down. The only downsidd to the map was getting trapped in the castle and even then a good team could post up and slay anyone coming into it. I’d welcome Ghosts 2! Fucking bring back the Honey Badger!!

[J4MES OX4D 10,034]

1 hour ago, GazzaGarratt said:

Is BO4 bombing that badly? I really don't think it's a bad game at all, the Black Ops series out of all of them is something that we should at the very least acknowledge they have parts of a solid game.

The core game is fine but it has a limited presence on Twitch and most YouTuber's have long gone back to Fortnite. Microtransactions seem to have driven a huge amount away and the Black Ops pass content will drive another wedge.  Then there was this released a couple of weeks ago

 

COD games have struggled after Christmas since Ghosts. Even Blackout seems to be getting tiresome for many and that's because it had no forwarding strategy in place unlike Fortnite. The whole product is rushed and re-releasing old maps and then re-releasing them again with different weather or time of day isn't going to keep people on board doing the same things they've been doing for over a decade.  If a COD is doing badly, they start hyping up the next one and monetizing the hell out of the current one before the shareholder payout - both boxes have been ticked so my guess is BO4 ain't doing all that good.

[tronic44 3,642]

Ghosts was awful, i hated almost everything about that game. MW3 was one of my favourites, i know they'll some how ruin MW4 because it's what they do best now. What i'd honestly rather they did is remastered games like Blops2 and MW3 and forget about this shite franchise. Blops4 is awful, they've suckered people in to thinking that's it's ok to pay full price for a game that is basically a few maps. The fact that there is no campaign is a joke! The one slightly redeeming factor would have been to play blackout with friends in a custom game, which you can but whats the point if 12 of you are playing on a map that's designed for 100 people? No one thinks about anything any more, they just churn shit out and throw it at people and everyone gobbles it up. Everyone raves about battle royale, which by the way is free on most games but that is their main selling point on this game.

 

I can't deal with buying into this franchise any more, the only thing i like about these games is the zombies but i'm not paying £60 for a zombie game. I also like our custom games but again i'm not paying that much for us to play custom games once every 4 months. I'd just like to thank all the companies that have ruined one of my favourite franchises, they've done a fantastic job. 10/10 for lack of effort an imagination.

[J4MES OX4D 10,034]

If you think about it also; the red dot reticle costs more than Warframe which is an entire game.  That's how fucking stupid Call of Duty and this industry has become. 

[The3rdWalker 1,271]

Doesn't matter to me, I won't be buying it. 

[techno 3,510]

Rich pretty much hit the nail on the head, I didn't mind ghosts for the 3 months I played it but I thank that game for making me buy into BF4 my favourite FPS game up to this point.

Cod was a simple and enjoyable format that they fucked up with stupid design decisions and greed...as for battle royale I hate that mode even watching commentaries with it in the background bores me to death...battle royale just what a fast paced twitch shooter needed ...idiots

[GazzaGarratt 11,049]

Ghosts was awful, i hated almost everything about that game. MW3 was one of my favourites, i know they'll some how ruin MW4 because it's what they do best now. What i'd honestly rather they did is remastered games like Blops2 and MW3 and forget about this shite franchise. Blops4 is awful, they've suckered people in to thinking that's it's ok to pay full price for a game that is basically a few maps. The fact that there is no campaign is a joke! The one slightly redeeming factor would have been to play blackout with friends in a custom game, which you can but whats the point if 12 of you are playing on a map that's designed for 100 people? No one thinks about anything any more, they just churn shit out and throw it at people and everyone gobbles it up. Everyone raves about battle royale, which by the way is free on most games but that is their main selling point on this game.

 

I can't deal with buying into this franchise any more, the only thing i like about these games is the zombies but i'm not paying £60 for a zombie game. I also like our custom games but again i'm not paying that much for us to play custom games once every 4 months. I'd just like to thank all the companies that have ruined one of my favourite franchises, they've done a fantastic job. 10/10 for lack of effort an imagination.

I don't feel the same way about Blops 4 price unfortunately mate. I played campaigns before I met you guys. Now I never touch them and don't care for them. Once they did the Modern Warfare storyline and ended it, nothing compares to that for me. Slight derail, but is it just the amount of maps and campaign that make you feel shortchanged? If the gunplay is good, which it is, and there's plenty of challenges to go after I'm not sure what else I want from an FPS.

If you think about it also; the red dot reticle costs more than Warframe which is an entire game.  That's how fucking stupid Call of Duty and this industry has become. 

 

I can't make that comparison, sorry James. Warfare has a different business model so if rather be annoyed about it for Robs reason regarding game-changing microtransactions.

[MrBiron 1,453]

At the end of the day - and as everybody knows - COD needs a massive overhaul and some serious investment.

They need to bin it off for a few years, buy an actual new game engine, sort their studios out and the release a proper new COD on the next generation of consoles. But we all know they'll just continue to milk the franchise like they have been doing for years.

[J4MES OX4D 10,034]

1 hour ago, MrBiron said:

At the end of the day - and as everybody knows - COD needs a massive overhaul and some serious investment.

Too late now IMO. This should've happened in the early 2010's like we saw with Frostbite. The dated technology has really held the franchise back as has the dated multiplayer format. BO4 was a big overhaul for the series but despite poaching all ideas from other hugely successful titles, they still manged to screw it up somehow.  COD used to be the lead innovator and now its languishing.  

1 hour ago, MrBiron said:

They need to bin it off for a few years, buy an actual new game engine, sort their studios out and the release a proper new COD on the next generation of consoles.

Activision have very little to fall back on with Destiny, Rockband and Tony Hawk as their key brands and with 3 major studios to fund; they need the income that COD delivers just to remain sustainable. They'd probably be better off selling the brand altogether and probably IW, SHG and 3arc with it. I can see someone buying COD but certainly not wanting the studios on top. Activision have taken it as far as they can and they are paying the ultimate price for their lack of investment and greed. 

1 hour ago, MrBiron said:

But we all know they'll just continue to milk the franchise like they have been doing for years.

I think they'll milk it until they kill it if they don't look to sell up. It's failed as an eSport, it's failing on Twitch even with Blackout, the sales are 'disappointing' and the only thing keeping it in the green is in-game purchases and even that's fading.  Activision's lack of foresight and grasp of the market compared to Epic, Ubisoft and even scum like EA is truly shocking. They got so comfortable with supply drops and people buying COD and season passes every year that they didn't plan an exit or the possibility of a decline. 

[tronic44 3,642]

On 1/4/2019 at 7:36 AM, GazzaGarratt said:

I don't feel the same way about Blops 4 price unfortunately mate. I played campaigns before I met you guys. Now I never touch them and don't care for them. Once they did the Modern Warfare storyline and ended it, nothing compares to that for me. Slight derail, but is it just the amount of maps and campaign that make you feel shortchanged? If the gunplay is good, which it is, and there's plenty of challenges to go after I'm not sure what else I want from an FPS.

Its the fact that we’re getting less content for the same money, I haven’t liked some of the newer campaigns but there might be others that have. The idea that you could swap an entire campaign for one map and battle royale is insulting to the community, even if people don’t realise it. It’s a lack of imagination and laziness, even the specialist classes are basically the bloody same as previous games.

[BO7H B4RRELS 2,453]

I'd rather see MW4 than Ghosts 2. I'm enjoying BO4 quite a bit.

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[Dan94 913]

MW4 hopefully. Enjoyed every single one of the MW series