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That's always been D2's biggest issue balancing. So many times, abilities get nerfed due to over-preforming in PvP, but that in turn fucks the PvE side of it and the same for weapons. While I've never been a hardcore PvP player, I agree with @techno I fondly remember having a much better time in D1 PvP. D2 became really bad with the aforementioned balancing issues.

I totally disagree, PvP back in destiny 1 was great what they should have done is not try to balance both PvP and PvE as one entity. The new abilities added in destiny 2 just broke PvP imo. I wouldn't personally compare it to halo either. I think the PvP community would definitely argue on wether it was needed or not 🤷

I wish they abandoned PvP altogether - it feels like a watered-down version of Halo with no balance or meat to the mode. Always felt like it was included as filler and that's the way it's always persisted yet it was never really needed as it still only represents a minor part of the game, yet still big enough to alienate new and even longstanding players. Bungie have spent way too much time half-assing so many aspects and then tweaking others and it's no wonder they could just settle down and comfortably make expansions when they couldn't even get the foundation right after a decade nearly.

Oh @Luseth you are too kind! Wiping out parties is never part of the fun and it was your first times so it's hard to navigate the options you have in front of you. I thoroughly enjoyed myself and watching you all slowly fall into your characters was great to see. You should all be very proud of yourselves. @Greboth @TheMuggySpud @Lurchzy

It would be cool to get non-Destiny players views here sometimes too...I mean, in my eyes so much success and memories were built from CoD and Destiny like @Diddums and @Riff Machine said. Insane thinking back how it all happened through the years.

Yeah, I never want to be too deep and profound to say 'this game is dead', mainly because how many times have we heard that in the last 10 years and its still here lol. I think games that are in your life so regularly like this one, just need to evolve and move with the audience and its hit a spot where that hasn't matched for a while now. Having said all that, and with the new season actually kicking off some crazy stuff until something that hasn't been talked about for a while (The 15th Wish), I think the hype i've seen over the last 48 hours shows it still has the ability to shine. And it can shine and be played alongside us feeling really crap that some good people got let go from this studio. There are so many people at FG that never really ventured into this game and I know that if we actually managed to get them on it, we'd have an absolute blast because their minds would be blown away by so much stuff thats in it. No other game can compare to it, so maybe the break for a little bit longer will just do us all some good. No need to care for the grind anymore, just hang out, complete some fun missions and quests together and have a blast like we've done on so many other games.

So no more new content everybody then? Shame really, I absolutely fucking loved taking my PS4 to work on night shifts and gaming with everyone from all over the world for a full 10 hours solid. Like most here, some of my fondest gaming memories were in this game and funnily enough on Monday was wondering if it'd be worth installing it to see if I could resuscitate that old flame but reading this has put that idea to bed. Ah well, 11 more camos to go.

Episode 70 is LIVE! We talk about the Bungie layoffs, The Day Before controversy, and more.

Episode 69 is LIVE!!! Sarah did some research into the history of them porn games so readily available on Steam and Switch. Plus, some small updates on what we've been playing.