The3rdWalker 1,271 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I'm okay with either decision, I did vote to be selfish and keep it as is, however, I haven't used anything outside of vanilla stuff. i7 7700k, 16GB RAM, GEFORCE 1080, 240GB SSHD, 2TB SSD Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-90981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbers Crack 4,062 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I vote the same. Plus I'd like to know soon as well as I already have a great wall built, it's huge, an amazingly beautiful wall. Via the FG AppI'd say you'd need to change over to Win 10 Dave to access this.Sent from my SM-N9005 using TapatalkVia the FG App Thanks to Capn_Underpants for the artwork Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-90986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 So I have actually been pretty swamped with work, school, and helping my wife get her business off the ground. I will attempt to have a reasonable answer for you all in regards to the mods soon. My goal here will be to make it more sustainable and easily upgradable(sp) for the future. GazzaGarratt and BO7H B4RRELS 2 Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-90987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbers Crack 4,062 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Sorry technically incompetent. ..I'll try again Via the FG App phil bottle 1 Thanks to Capn_Underpants for the artwork Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-90988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Plumbers Crack said: It talks about Windows 10 and I'm running W8.1, does that mean I couldn't use this version? I don't want to upgrade Windows again I think you will be fine to be honest. Java is pretty universal. phil bottle 1 Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-90989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbers Crack 4,062 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I vote the same. Plus I'd like to know soon as well as I already have a great wall built, it's huge, an amazingly beautiful wall. Via the FG AppI know someone with orange hair who might be in need of your wall building skillzzz [emoji4] Via the FG App Thanks to Capn_Underpants for the artwork Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-90990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil bottle 9,761 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Sorry technically incompetent. ..I'll try again Via the FG AppYou're better off checking with Bart. I'm the king of assumptions [emoji12] Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-90991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greboth 2,721 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Regarding windows 10, it depends how they do it as you need windows 10 for the xbox one cross play. Hopefully it wont require W10 though as I'm still running 7. Edit: Reading around, everywhere specifically says Windows 10 version. So it looks like it will only be W10 that can cross play. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-90992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO7H B4RRELS 2,453 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Regarding windows 10, it depends how they do it as you need windows 10 for the xbox one cross play. Hopefully it wont require W10 though as I'm still running 7. Edit: Reading around, everywhere specifically says Windows 10 version. So it looks like it will only be W10 that can cross play.Win 7 4LifeVia the FG App Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-90998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Quick list of the Pro's and cons: I tried to keep this really simple and straight forward (I know you all will have questions. Post them up and I will explain what I can) Pro’s Less intensive for player PC’s to run Less Intensive for the server (potentially we could downgrade, but not sure we want to) Easier crafting Newer Recipes/ revised Recipes Easier learning curve Future updates will not cause the world to reset More creative maps/ world options Future updates will be able to be incorporated Resource world based off of the main world with better control of rare resource spawn Far more stable Neutral Changed Recipes Cons Loss of complexity Loss of all mods Stuck in the current version Loss Recipes/ revised Recipes Loss of some customization that mods give World Reset Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaGarratt 11,051 Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Clearly, I have less to lose than others but after reading the above and the facts people have helpfully shared, this is about taking a pause and a stepback to see the bigger picture. If an FG server is going places, which it is, and we want to share that with our children, wives and new players of all shapes and sizes, it needs to be sustainable and consistent throughout the journey. To have longevity and build a growing place that can last continously through updates means I believe we need to look at the newer version. I think Bart was right in the earlier posts that whilst we may feel we have some serious amount of work, I don't think we have even scratched the surface with this game. We've been playing for only a few weeks. Its not ideal, granted, but If you want a place here to grow and play with everyone together then it seems like this is the ideal path. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbers Crack 4,062 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 If we changed does this mean we need to upgrade to Windows 10 to play on the server and text chat each other. Upgrading is something I really, really, really, really dont want to do. Full stop. Period Thanks to Capn_Underpants for the artwork Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaGarratt 11,051 Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, Plumbers Crack said: If we changed does this mean we need to upgrade to Windows 10 to play on the server and text chat each other. Upgrading is something I really, really, really, really dont want to do. Full stop. Period I'm not upgrading Dave, so no need to worry I don't believe. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, Plumbers Crack said: If we changed does this mean we need to upgrade to Windows 10 to play on the server and text chat each other. Upgrading is something I really, really, really, really dont want to do. Full stop. Period I don't believe so Easiest way to test is to go into the minecraft launcher and tell it that you want to play the "Latest Version" Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, GazzaGarratt said: I think Bart was right in the earlier posts that whilst we may feel we have some serious amount of work, I don't think we have even scratched the surface with this game. We've been playing for only a few weeks. Its not ideal, granted, but If you want a place here to grow and play with everyone together then it seems like this is the ideal path. This is true. If you haven't touched the mods, then you don't really lose anything. Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greboth 2,721 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Sennex said: I don't believe so Easiest way to test is to go into the minecraft launcher and tell it that you want to play the "Latest Version" That doesn't work though, the better together update is coming out later this year so playing the latest version now doesn't prove anything. In fact all articles I can find only mention Windows 10 with some specifically highlighting that the only supported devices are Windows 10, Xbox One, Switch etc. This could be Microsofts announcement being rubbish but equally, through Xbox One games only being playable on Windows 10, it could mean that cross play is going to be limited to Windows 10. I'm not saying we shouldn't go back to Vanilla Minecraft in preparation, just to accept that even if we do, we may not see cross play working. Or we go full up to date with better together and stop some people playing together. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Well, you all stated you didn't care about cross play. My answer wasn't pointed towards that, it was more so to have him test out if he CAN run the latest versions. Cross play doesn't change the discussion, it was simply the catalyst that brought it forward. We all play Minecraft Java version, thats all any of us will ever play most likely Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbers Crack 4,062 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I'll try to remember to give it a go in the next day or two edit: I don't mind which version I'm playing as long as it's stable and you guys can fix it if I break it... "Minecraft technical support, you thro to Bart, How can I help you today and have you tried turning it off and on again?" Thanks to Capn_Underpants for the artwork Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Base minecraft is more stable, I forgot to add that as a pro. Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greboth 2,721 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 41 minutes ago, Sennex said: Well, you all stated you didn't care about cross play. My answer wasn't pointed towards that, it was more so to have him test out if he CAN run the latest versions. Cross play doesn't change the discussion, it was simply the catalyst that brought it forward. We all play Minecraft Java version, thats all any of us will ever play most likely Sorry, I'm confused now. I thought the whole discussion started because of cross play with the proposed changed happening because of wanting to have cross play. Therefore surely the discussion has to include if we will be able to play the cross play version. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 7 hours ago, Greboth said: I agree a decision needs to be made quickly as, while in limbo, there is little point mining, building etc. if it is all going to get wiped. A question for Bart and anyone else experienced with minecraft PC; The mods obviously add a lot to the game but, as i understand it, so do the standard updates. So, ignoring cross play for now, how does the modded game stack against the standard up to date game? I can, and will try to, do some reading on it but hands on experience beats reading stuff on the internet. Obviously cross play comes in to it but it doesn't seem worth having an updated version to have cross play if you sacrifice a lot loosing the mods. Or visa versa, if the standard updated games adds a lot that the mods currently do then with cross play on top it becomes and easy choice. I started ignoring Cross Play when you made this post, and others pointed out that none of us play on Xbox. It didnt' change the discussion though, or the drive to be more inclusive to others with less robust systems, are new to the game, or would rather not have to deal with mods (installing them, maintaining them, etc.) Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbers Crack 4,062 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 If it's any help, the poll has two Cross Play options but the current leader on 70+% is keeping it as it is....that's 5 of 7 votes. I believe we currently have 9 players (8 on the top of the user name thread plus Marina) however I think there may be a general "whatever Bart feels works best and is easiest for him" vibe which I would subscribe to as well Thanks to Capn_Underpants for the artwork Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I can see where that would be confusing I haven't looked at the results or anything, I was asked by folks, so tried to provide feedback Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbers Crack 4,062 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I think then, the question boils down to stay as we are or change to the latest version we can all run on our current PC based on your pro/con list? Thanks to Capn_Underpants for the artwork Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The3rdWalker 1,271 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Well let's make the switch.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk i7 7700k, 16GB RAM, GEFORCE 1080, 240GB SSHD, 2TB SSD Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/4523-microsoft-confirm-cross-play-with-minecraft/page/2/#findComment-91035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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