Lurchzy 1,570 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Riff Machine and GazzaGarratt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misneach_ 298 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Honestly, I have never watched it & was told without reading the comics that I wouldn’t enjoy it. Lurchzy, GazzaGarratt and Riff Machine 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurchzy 1,570 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 Watchmen is a film showing the moral conflict within superheroes trying to save the world in a dark tone. While other superhero films don't explore the psychology and moral compass of the superheroes, Zack Snyder takes an ambitious approach to portray these complexities, making it the best film he ever made. - Financial Express GazzaGarratt and Riff Machine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurchzy 1,570 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Misneach_ said: Honestly, I have never watched it & was told without reading the comics that I wouldn’t enjoy it. I don't think that's true, the film stands up well by itself. Obviously reading the comics would give you some extra backstory but I don't think it's necessary to enjoy it. Riff Machine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddums 4,336 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Fine, I'll watch it then. Lurchzy, TheMuggySpud, Riff Machine and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca89 501 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 26 minutes ago, Lurchzy said: Watchmen is a film showing the moral conflict within superheroes trying to save the world in a dark tone. While other superhero films don't explore the psychology and moral compass of the superheroes, Zack Snyder takes an ambitious approach to portray these complexities, making it the best film he ever made. - Financial Express And this proves why Watchmen is not a good superhero movie, it tries to cater to "highly educated" and goes way over the top for what it needs to be. Taking the superhero aspect out of it, probably a decent film, but your not going into a superhero film wanting to listen to bullshit political views for half the film, bored the living fuck out of me, felt like I was running a pub again listening to drunk pissheads talk about politics. 6/10 Riff Machine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMuggySpud 221 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Honest to god a great movie. Best superhero movie? Probably not. Top 5? Most definitely GazzaGarratt, Lurchzy and Riff Machine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Class Caveman 978 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I think it’s a refreshing take on those movies and Snyder really hit the mark with the feeling of doom and gloom. Great casting too. Lurchzy and Riff Machine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurchzy 1,570 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, Macca89 said: And this proves why Watchmen is not a good superhero movie, it tries to cater to "highly educated" and goes way over the top for what it needs to be. Taking the superhero aspect out of it, probably a decent film, but your not going into a superhero film wanting to listen to bullshit political views for half the film, bored the living fuck out of me, felt like I was running a pub again listening to drunk pissheads talk about politics. 6/10 Doesn't have anything to do with politics. It questions basic personal morality. The character Rorschach is the perfect example of this always choosing to do what's morally 'right'. I much prefer this type of film opposed to the attention grabbing 'explosions every 5 minutes' type of superhero films. Riff Machine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurchzy 1,570 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, TheMuggySpud said: Honest to god a great movie. Best superhero movie? Probably not. Top 5? Most definitely I agree 👍 Riff Machine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurchzy 1,570 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 Honest question @Macca89, when did you watch it? Riff Machine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca89 501 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 34 minutes ago, Lurchzy said: Doesn't have anything to do with politics. It questions basic personal morality. The character Rorschach is the perfect example of this always choosing to do what's morally 'right'. I much prefer this type of film opposed to the attention grabbing 'explosions every 5 minutes' type of superhero films. Funny thing is mate, I've probably watched Watchmen about 5 times and like I said, I'm not saying it's a bad film, it's just not a good superhero film. Logan Avengers Infinity War Endgame Iron-man Thor Ragnorok Guardians 1 & 3 Shang Chi Spiderman 1 & 2 (Tobey) Spiderman No way home Black Panther 1 & 2 Captain America Winter Soldier Captain America Batman Begins The Dark Knight The Dark Knight Rises The Batman Justice League (Snyder Cut) Dr Strange All better 'Superhero' films for me. The thing with MCU pal to why people like it so much isn't due to attention grabbing explosions, it's because of the 10 year project they put together for the Infinity Saga, putting so many bits and pieces together and linking it all together at the end for 2 incredible films to close it out. Riff Machine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurchzy 1,570 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Macca89 said: Funny thing is mate, I've probably watched Watchmen about 5 times and like I said, I'm not saying it's a bad film, it's just not a good superhero film. Logan Avengers Infinity War Endgame Iron-man Thor Ragnarok Guardians 1 & 3 Shang Chi Spiderman 1 & 2 (Tobey) Spiderman No way home Black Panther 1 & 2 Captain America Winter Soldier Captain America Batman Begins The Dark Knight The Dark Knight Rises The Batman Justice League (Snyder Cut) Dr Strange All better 'Superhero' films for me. The thing with MCU pal to why people like it so much isn't due to attention grabbing explosions, it's because of the 10 year project they put together for the Infinity Saga, putting so many bits and pieces together and linking it all together at the end for 2 incredible films to close it out. That's fine, I just didn't understand your view on the politics in the film. Where as I would say that the Marvel franchise dives deep into Modern politics. (Probably why I can't get along with the films) If understand correctly I would say you prefer idealism rather than realism and like the spectacle of the Superhero films. And I on the other hand prefer films that feel raw and I disconnect easily from the extraordinary. Either way I value your opinion pal 👍 Riff Machine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurchzy 1,570 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 Joker Watchmen The Dark Knight Robocop Dredd My top 5, not in any order. Riff Machine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca89 501 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Forgot about robocop (original) loved that growing up Riff Machine and Lurchzy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBaguette 833 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Comment Riff Machine, Lurchzy and TheMuggySpud 1 2 cba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaGarratt 10,998 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I thought it was a really good film back when I watched it. Something very different to the usual superhero films you see out there. Always struggle with top 5s/10s, etc as I forget films and also love different films for different reasons. Having said that....its probably top 10 for me. Lurchzy and Riff Machine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil bottle 9,714 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Not personally a fan of superhero movies, I prefer to read the comics. If superhero movies were animated I'd probably enjoy them. There's a superman story (Red Sun) where its an alternate reality and he landed in totalitarian Russia, which i read 10 years ago... and that's now been animated, so I have a copy 🙂 That said, I did enjoy Watchmen, I like a lot of Alan Moore's work and the director did it justice. Riff Machine, Lurchzy and GazzaGarratt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurchzy 1,570 Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 12 hours ago, phil bottle said: Not personally a fan of superhero movies, I prefer to read the comics. If superhero movies were animated I'd probably enjoy them. There's a superman story (Red Sun) where its an alternate reality and he landed in totalitarian Russia, which i read 10 years ago... and that's now been animated, so I have a copy 🙂 That said, I did enjoy Watchmen, I like a lot of Alan Moore's work and the director did it justice. What's this Superman animation called? Wouldn't mind having a look into that. Riff Machine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil bottle 9,714 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lurchzy said: What's this Superman animation called? Wouldn't mind having a look into that. I prefer the graphic novel as the animation leaves some stuff out but it's still pretty decent GazzaGarratt, Riff Machine and Lurchzy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordie1892 674 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I really enjoyed Watchmen. Always thought the opening credits to Bob Dylans 'The Times Are A-Changing' went extremely hard... Lurchzy, Riff Machine, GazzaGarratt and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riff Machine 2,105 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I didn't mind the film. It followed the source material pretty closely with a few changes here and there. I personally prefer the graphic novel, as there's a lot in there that immerses you into the world, like reading the comic within the comic, or excerpts from the original Night Owls biography. Just little things like that. Alan Moore is just nuts with the details. Lurchzy, GazzaGarratt and phil bottle 3 *The opinions of Riff Machine do not reflect those of Forever Gaming ;)* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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