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Hard to compete against what they offer however you do have UCL this season so I did expect some to come to Spurs now Franck is in charge. Levy needs to stick with him for longer than a season though....

@crispymorgan installed it I think. I'm not sure I'm in the mood to go back to this given BF6 is just around the corner.

Eze going to Arsenal after everything agreed at Spurs 😬 Player (and agent) Power is defo in full swing of late. Still surprised Man Utd havent bid for Wharton yet.

Showed the gulf in class between Prem and Championship in the first 90 mins. I was happy about it, and you know why 😃 however it just highlights the bigger picture again and we're not any closer to a solution.

I think the game is worthwhile to buy as it will get some hours ploughed into it. I do agree though that's more because there aren't many games that really shine of late (you could extend that to over 12-18 months). Its a game that really needs multiple squads working together, not just your squad. We were busting a gut last night to win a conquest game on the new big map for this weekends beta and it was such a struggle to keep up with the opposition. King of the Hill worked relatively well last night, although feels like that's more for the CoD players coming across. I wonder how much of the game they are holding back for official launch. Maybe it'll have a rocky start due to the playerbase but you can see there is a good foundation for a game here and certainly one that will grow in time. Btw, whats the advantage of being anything other than Assault or Medic? Couldn't see what difference the other roles were performing so far in the Beta.

Prem is back tonight. You can see how much of a spectacle it really is now compared to 10-20 years ago. Championship for me is getting worse. Watched some awful games last week, including Blackburn looking very poor against West Brom. Only Bristol smashing Sheff Utd was a really good game to watch. So many teams struggling to cope with cash.

Yeah, Son is a huge miss to the PL, not just Spurs. One of the all-time greats, never thought he'd stay at Spurs for that long, given how consistent he was there. One of the big guns you would've thought could have bought him in and he would've won more trophies for sure. Glad he got that one before he went to LA.

You finally made it Josh! YAY! Glad you've become a part of the furniture or so to speak. I'm sure Matt @Luseth is delighted to have his brother here to annoy the crap out of each other. Welcome, officially, to FG mate. Hope to see your thoughts on the BF6 beta if you get chance for a few more games this weekend. Nah, thats US Josh @igotmollywhopped now iJoshimiro on PSN 😄

Looks like EA sending some emails linked to your progress. Here's mine from last weekend. I'll try and get on this weekend before my hols 😄

We need more of this at FG 🤣

Agree with this. I only did Assault and didn't feel like i needed to do anything else as others were running Medic. I read that as good feedback overall. Some good, some bad. Whats helpful is the last 2 BFs haven't been at this level at the beta stage.

You think it was okay before this?! 🤣

This is so strange to me. Everything he said was for me what you want out of a Battlefield game 🤷‍♂️ TLDR - I think what I'm seeing is what happened to people talk about Destiny. They want something fresh and evolved but once they do, they don't like it. Clearly small and medium maps dictate his thoughts. For me, if we have way too much open space like alot of older Battlefield games, in this era we will just get 40 snipers taking people out anywhere between 1-5 minutes of running from original spawn points. Thats just so annoying and a real turn off if you can't get into gunfights and flanking early. He said about Snipers doesn't work as they're downed - but that doesn't make sense. If you're good enough to get headshots, there in no respawn so thats a huge bonus. If you down them he says its pointless but thats a great thing to happen to stop the enemy flow. I hate snipers with a passion, but thats surely their use - and also impacts the ticket system in a good way for your team. I didn't see many diamonds in my game, maybe that will happen more as people start spotting people more and more so lets give him that point. On a game like this to get control points, I actually think we need to do what he thinks is wrong, which is tactically play in your group, make your way to the area you want to control. I can't see any of our beta games were like 'gungame' as he mentions. Gungame is no way near this game. Maybe its time Battlefield fans have to understand it has to evolve to stay in the limelight. The larger maps sound like a good way to see where the game is long term. But I do hope there is lots of cover, like there has been in the few maps we tried. Working in teams and to try and take a control point seems a far more enjoyable way to win a game than sit back and let snipers take you out like Lemmings walking off a cliff.

On Witch Queen - Agreed, totally top tier content. In the old style campaigns it was always Forsaken that was the one that rivalled this but Witch Queen brought so many things to the game and compelling long campaign missions that you felt rewarded when completing it. Lightfall - Glad you got it done @J4MES OX4D. Maybe I should attempt to go back to it, but I knew it felt off from the start. Final Shape - I can maybe see why you found some things frustrating. Some hard moments as a group on the campaign near the latter missions. The end part is quite challenging on Legendary. I enjoyed the final heroic battle with everyone. It was a bit gimmicky, sure. But if you have been with Destiny for 10 years, it was great to finally see your guardian fight way more alongside your NPC allies. Never thought of the Zavala bit in detail until now. Maybe it was put in there to disguise where the story was headed. Some really key things happened in the storyline though if you follow the backstory of everything. Zavala was set up just before Final Shape to start becoming a little more angry and less controlled. Edge of Fate - I've started it. Not done enough yet to warrant me seeing if its any good or not. I miss the enjoyment of running in a crew through the storyline so maybe that is impacting and skewing my feelings.

Is there a roadmap of what they are introducing over time into the game at all?

I'm in the same boat mate. Feels like it has momentum, but we have to see what happens. I even saw some older FGers on it from around the world too, so its clearly peaked some interest out there.

Totally agree on that ❤️ I think I just found it more odd catching up as everyone who played online over the weekend were really happy that the game seemed in a decent spot. Maybe its because I didn't hear that online and then read something different here. We'll see what the next weekend will bring. Macca mentioned they are working on TTK which is a good sign its already been acknowledged. I think this is totally down to the younger gen Cod players giving this Beta a go and not really understanding what team mechanics are about 😅 Matt told me on the Conquest games to tag a flag being squad leader and that got us extra points. I think not many people play the FG way online 🤣 - which is why I'll be serious disappointed if they don't make it really easy to get more friends in the same game.

Given how much some of us played DayZ on PC, I think its a very good chance to give it a go on console...although I expect it will be a few versions behind PC and way harsher than we've previously played it! Lets hope the controller button layout works well.

I don't go into any FIFA related game expecting anything now, so whatever we get extra is a bonus. Its not new content, even if they badge as it is, but having live tournaments (old cups) is a welcome addition back into the game. They need more variety added to Pro Clubs mode as its fast becoming hugely popular in this era. Not sure, normally when everyone agrees. Over the past 2-3 years its been getting closer and closer to launch date because everyone becomes tired of the previous game (mainly as the thoughts are EA have stopped fixing the older game!). I don't like paying full price for FIFA, just doesn't feel right unless they added far more items. If we can make it last to the first sale that will save everyone at least £20-£30, but don't be surprised if its sooner.

Coming from a player that's never really enjoyed Battlefield over the years, I must say its probably been one of the best beta offerings I've played that I can remember. You may probably say that proves the point that BF lovers aren't overly enthused about the game, but I am struggling to see why there is so much disappoint in this thread so far. I must have played with c.8 FGers on it over the weekend and everyone was really enjoying it. The hours on it alone you could see that. One criticism I would agree with? TTK. It felt too quick almost immediately and its one thing I think I can see why on a Beta they go quicker so they know they can dial it back on launch or next beta weekend. Breakthrough and Conquest felt very strong as game modes. Most maps felt like they had moments for attack and defence, which is a good thing overall. Domination not so much, as i felt that was introduced purely for the CoD players giving it a go. It looked extremely polished.I enjoyed the UI. The Medic being able to resupply health and ammo is a great shout and I found in the 3-5 hours I played it, I can see why in Battlefield you really do need to work together in your squads to try and win the match. That will switch alot of CoD players off eventually leaving BF6 in a reasonably good state. The only one thing you all know I want in this game to see it as a true success is if they fix it so more than 3 of your friends can play in the same match. Its impacted pretty much most BF games in the past and probably why CoD has still survived. They've got to get this right on launch. N.B. I didn't play it on original settings. @igotmollywhopped Josh helped update my settings before I played and I can only assume those changes helped me have a really enjoyable time on it - but equally I can't say how different it is to the default settings.

Here's the release of all the deep dive's I've been sent: Pro Clubs Career Ultimate Team Thoughts?

I think the real hard thing about this is it won't take long for the same people to say 'its not changed', although it has had some great QoL updates now. What its missing for me is a group of people that want to go on to the game and play at their own pace but are willing to help each other when needed. Missions are so much more fun in a group, apart from maybe some campaign missions that can give you some real challenge but not impossible to do alone. There is loads for us to pick up on before we probably entered Crucible PvP again. Its mainly the class abilities to get your head around. I don't even know them all now, but there is an inbuilt build save which I think when you've built a few ways to play, you can switch your whole armour and guns in a second (rather than using 3rd party apps on your phone which we used to do).

Glad you really enjoyed Witch Queen @J4MES OX4D, its right up there in terms of campaigns of any game really. Each mission felt chunky, difficult and the story was one that keeps you invested to the very end. Lightfall, funnily enough is still the only one I haven't gone all the way through to complete would you believe. I love the aesthic of the planet and missions, but it set off in a strange way - maybe its also because Strand is a completely different class ability that for me broker my brain abit 😅 I need to restart it actually to get to grips with it as lots of people use some abilities across many builds. Good news is you Final Shape and then this new one is apparently really good storywise. What do you think to the 'Journey' page? I find that drives me forward with better objectives than the world now as I can see how it can get confusing if you don't know where to go.

Power level has just had a full reset, so probs a good time to start again lol. If you look at Armour too its had an update (Armour 3.0 now iirc?). So stats are essentially dumbed down a bit so no more intellect or other confusing words - its now: Health Melee Grenade Super Class Weapons Witch Queen is hard to beat in terms of campaign. On Legendary it is a massive challenge and feels packed. The change to Normal and Legendary campaigns was such a brilliant move. Final Shape is up there with it, for obvious reasons. You're crazy doing it 3 times. Don't think I ever did a full story through 3 times even in D1. Maybe did D2 as it was a breeze when it came out on launch with everyone on.