The PES PS2 days were the best. The game was so much fun. I don't know what happened to it on the last gen but they never recovered from 2007 to 2013 and FIFA just improved year after year in many areas and had the licences to enhance the experience. Nobody gave a shit back in the day on PES 2,3,4,5,6 if you were playing as North East London or Merseyside Red with players such as Brian Greggs and Radolno. Editing was always hard work but it was worth it just for the fun and the Master League. I tried that in PES 2014 and it was just really cheesy and the presentation was horrible and arcadey. PES has just been a monumental fall from grace. Such a shame