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I miss the MW2 days so much Despite the noob-tubes, quickscopers, commando pro, last stand and all that mumbo-jumbo; I don't think I've had as much fun with a videogame in my life. I got into watching YouTube quite a lot back then and many great uploaders we see today were born out of that game. Just great memories. Not as good as COD 4 but the it was the game that changed gaming for years to come. I remember watching the first ever nuke recorded, Chris Smoove growing from 10 subs to hundreds of thousands and GeneralMinus introducing teamkill griefing to the fore. It was so unique and groundbreaking but as time wore on, the game got a bit frustrating and too many people were trying to replicate things seen online before quickscoping and general noobery became too prominent for my liking. The maps were really good although they'd be pretty big in COD terms now. It wasn't hyped to buggery or very commerical back then either. MW3 just went way over the top in its promotion that people had seen it all before it was released. MW2 was unique as people were still new to the series and learning. It may have created the typical 'noob' type player we see today but for all its faults; it was brilliant for me. If I hadn't boxed my 360 up and hackers weren't plaguing the PC version; I'd go back for a while but it wouldn't be the same as the good old days.

Dave, I would organize it but I'm way too busy with work and my mom. I'm in though if we can organize it. We should do this once a month to keep us all connected. PWNSTARZ does a throwback Tuesday on his Twitch channel, where he'll go back and play MW2, BO, MW3 and BO2. Let's do this!!!

My favorite cod, still have it for the 360.

Hopefully tomorrows (?) DLC on the Playstation will freshen things up

By far my favourite CoD as well, the only one I'd say I really enjoyed. It's going to sound weird personifying a game but I feel like despite it's flaws it had character. The guns all felt different, interesting maps, and I could just mess about if I wanted to. Unlike how I've found the others, it was actually fun. I think I'll pick up a copy next time I'm in town...

I loved MW2. I sucked but it was amazing. I remembered one of my acheivements was unlocking akimbo UMP45s. It took me ages and I told my brother and he was like, "seriously, that you took all afternoon and you only need 40 kills?". I'd be happy if they re-released MW2 with no one man army/danger close noob tubes. Maps were brilliant.

Why would you (in general) want to get everything unlocked like that? Yeas, I would love to have the SSR and Spas, but I want to work for it. Half the fun for me is doing challenges and looking forward to unlock "better" things.

Cats? Ducks? Price? What the hell is next, a Princess pack? What a joke. Just as I have not bought the wolf download, these will not be bought either. It does look like they're catering to the pre-pubescent population. James might be right. They will not get my money for this bullshit. They should be concentrating on better maps and getting the community that they have lost recently.

Techno, thanks for the info on the DOM scoring, I was not aware that only the first player on a flag got credit on his score streak for it. I guess I don't notice because I'm often the first one on. I have no problem with that as it rewards aggression and unselfish play. Spending a squad point for new operations doesn't bother me. I bought new operations 8 times before the one I wanted came up. I like that when you buy new operations, the ones you are close to don't go away. I agree, the overall numbers playing Ghosts are way down. I'm on Xbox One and in the evening (8-10pm Central time--I think we are GMT -6) there are between 30,000 and 40,000 on XBL. When I was playing BO2 on XBox 360 there were often 300,000+ on and sometimes 400,000. I think this will continue in the coming years until the 360 and PS3 are retired. Four consoles and PC make a pretty fractured game base. None of that matters though if they can keep reducing lag. I played last evening and heard some Spanish, so I know with the lower numbers we are getting put into games with players from much further away. Anyhow, none of these issues are big deals to me. I bought my first Xbox (a 360) to play BO1 a few years ago, and other than Skyrim (awesome) and Far Cry 3 (pretty good) I really only use the game system for COD titles. I try to take the strengths and weaknesses of each title and adapt my game to them. For example, in Ghosts, I know the first to get on target and fire will often win the gun fight, so every class has stalker and my go to ARs, R5 and AK12 have dead eye. Also, maybe because I'm old and don't care, as long as my KDR stays above 1.00 I don't get too bent out of shape. I figure I get as many bullshit kills as I receive bullshit deaths. It all evens out. Plus I tried BF 3 when it came out and I just find that I prefer the arcade shooter to the more tactical one. God bless those of you who have the mind and feel for the BF series, I am just not one who does.

And finally. there's this... I appreciate all those that contributed to this thread. I now see why many of you have left. There are many valid points on what makes this game not as good as others and there are other points that agree with me. With that being said, I have no hard feelings towards anyone here. We all have our own thoughts and opinions. Let's not make this a bigger deal than it is. We are talking about fucking video games for heaven's sake!!

If you are going to ask a question like what is wrong with Ghost on a forum where clearly most of us no longer play you should expect comments you are not going to like if you happen to like the game. I believe that everyone that made statements about the game purchased the game and played the game. None of us said anything negative to those of you that still play the game before you went and asked what we thought was wrong with it.

I have over nine days into Ghosts. I enjoy it a lot. First, three truths about online gaming, whether COD, BF4, and even TItanfall: One, every lobby will have some douches in it, but that's what the mute button is for. Two, online gaming is always better when you roll with your friends, no matter how good or bad the game is, the experience is better with friends. Three, people will camp. If you accept it as a given, it becomes less frustrating. Anyhow, My two cents after all those hours into Ghosts: PROS: Connection is better than the last game, but not perfect. Good weapon balance. I can use a wider variety of weapons and still fell competitive. DOM scoring took a big step up for me in this iteration. I am a decent player, but in spite of my KDR I enjoy DOM the most. In this game you are rewarded with caps counting toward streak bonus. Pair this with hardline and run the squad mate support streak (he gets YOU an additional CAP credit when he's on a flag with you). Not unusual for me to get double digit caps in a game and near 9/10k XP each game. (A special treat is playing DOM on Whiteout where the B flag is in the little cave in the middle--a C4 tossed in off the spawn can generate a triple kill--"XBox record that"). The ability to deal with campers. When I play, I often use a kastet grenade launcher as my secondary and C4 as my lethal. With a little practice, the kastet and C4 can be effective and humiliating tools to deal with campers. I am to the point that I can be VERY accurate, even at distance and elevation, against campers and snipers. I used to get frustrated with both snipers and campers, but with a little practice, you will turn your frustration into grins. No one in Ghosts has ever accused me of being a "noob toober" in a lobby after a game and I must have hundreds of kills with the kastet. I guess they don't want to bait me into exposing them as campers. C4 deserves its own entry as a "pro." What a fun piece of gear. Toss it into windows! Toss it on flags! Toss it around corners where a wounded enemy is waiting for you! Weapon variety. I covered weapon balance above, but the variety of weapons is a definite pro. I used all of the weapons until I found at least one (and in the case of ARs, FIVE, that I like. I now have classes that include each weapon type, including shotguns, SMGs, ARs, LMGs and even a sniper for occasional change of pace. Perk variety. Every bullshit tactic now has a counter. You don't like dying from random IEDs? Run blast shield, run sit rep. There are so many options that any tactic has a counter. Streak variety. I prefer the support streaks, but in each of the streak packages there are many options. Operations. In order to level up as fast as possible, I always pay attention to operations. I don't ever run canister bombs, but I saw recently that if I get 30 kills with it I will unlock a new uniform that looks pretty bad ass. So now I'm running canister bomb for a few nights. Player and weapon customization. Literally thousands of combinations. I love running difficult to earn uniforms and headgear. Map Packs. I have the ability to buy all the extras and I usually do. I understand the frustration of the "nickle and dime" argument, but I paid $60.00 for a game I've already played for 13,380 minutes. With the cost of the map pack, the Sgt Price character (yes, I did), the extra slots for each character (1.99), I'm up to 9/10 of a cent for each minute played (or 56 cents per hour). CONS: Several of the maps suck. I will not play on Siege. I will not play TDM on Overlord. Scoring in KC took a step backward in this iteration. My KDR is the lowest its been in any COD. I attribute this to the quick deaths. But to be fair, this is really not a con in the sense that I'm still above 1.00 and I really judge a game on fun rather than KDR. Anyhow, I really enjoy Ghosts. I will keep playing. If you don't care for it, I hope you find something you do enjoy. I have ordered Titanfall and will give it a go. Looks promising. I enjoyed the beta.

If someone wants to send me their copy, I'll give it a thorough evaluation.

Man, you shouldn't have to explain yourself like that :\ Why should you be afraid? If people disagree and feel an absolute urge to point that out to you, those should be the ones who should explain why they haven't got anything better to do with their time than bashing your beliefs. They won't prove themselves better than anyone either. Ignore the ignorant.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. You guys keep going on about CoD being the the same every year. Got a little secret to share...it's supposed to be the same! The formula works. People love CoD, and they buy it every year precisely because it's the same. If you change it too much you risk losing customers, who buy your game because they know what to expect from it. I think sometimes you guys forget that just because you all feel a certain way doesn't mean the community as a whole feels that way.

I thought it was a great episode. I agree Michonne was a little too happy, but we gotta see her lighten up eventually. That is most likely to happen in one on one situations. She is probably an Introvert. I did think the Carl and Michonne adventure was stale. Their first adventure was far better when he tried to get that picture of the family. I think the guys that Rick ran into are the Hunters from the Comic Book series. If they aren't the Hunters, we are sure to still see them again. They wouldn't have hired this guy to sit on the porch and talk off camera for just one episode. The fact that one of them saw Rick (jackoff #1 on the floor) right before he passed out, and also that Rick killed one of them (jackoff #2 jacking off on the toilet), should get this group out looking for some revenge. We haven't seen the last of them. It was great tension not showing their faces except for bits and pieces just how Rick would have saw them.

... he was probably brown skinned, but let's not turn this into a what colour was jesus thing (my bad )

When are you 30 Dave?

I love you Mike Full frontal homo. Wish I would see you online more though, I do get some games in with Matt, but not too much lately.

i don't think you necessarily have to be practicing faith to find stuff like this worthwhile or powerful. i remember being pretty moved by The Passion of the Christ and that was around the time i was beginning to let go of my faith. if it's good, i'll check it out. lemme know man. i think this was originally a mini-series right? and now they're releasing it as a feature film? all i remember was some fabricated controversy over how the guy they cast as the devil kinda looked like Obama. (ridiculous.)

I've got it on PS3 and PC. First CoD game. Still one of the best IMO (although there's probably some rose tinted goggliness going on there). Be nice to play with you lot again.

Damn, with those vids and this guy on Twitch, I may have to go and pick up a copy soon. I believe I traded mine in a while ago.

Played it at a mate`s house not too long ago. We had to start from scratch with weapons etc, but we saw no obvious hackers etc. Not too hard finding a lobby either

Best CoD ever made. I still have it and have been thinking about trying it to see if it's playable or not.

Some favourites of mine:

That artical looks promising That`s connecting with your users!! Tried HC briefly, but might venture it more Think I need a little break though..

That's probably more a netcode issue rather than connection. I'm still noticing inconsistencies but DICE are still working towards a fix http://mp1st.com/2014/02/25/dice-testing-possible-battlefield-4-netcode-fixes/?utm_content=featured#.Uw4yZfl_vKc HC servers are worth checking out as a good alternative if you're struggling in core with the bullet-detection issues.

We'll probably have to wait until 3ARC'sinstallment 1 year from now.Unless, of course, you trust Sledgehammer. Ponies?

Who's LC Scorpio?

To be honest I am not blown away at the moment. Firestorm and metro and capsian border were better for me as 300% games.but I guess on pc this is not an issue.its what it is.caspsian fstorm and metro are all fun maps. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk

Kyle, I would have thought you'd realise that no one is intentionally including you in their generalisations of the cod community as a whole. But yeah its only a video game. I should probably get back to work! Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk

That wasn't a personal attack on anybody. The only person who has taken a swipe at people is LC Scipio by referring to Battlefield players as 'BF fanboys' who bash COD in his PPR. As people know, I play on PC and when you have just 2,000 online and people just complaining in the text box; the morale sinks. Empty servers and negativity does not encourage me to participate compounded with the issues I encountered when playing Ghosts that I have already stated. Like I've said in this thread already and on a post you 'liked', I will never criticise anybody that plays or enjoys the game. I speak for the PC version and the PC version only and my opinions aren't reflected to that of the consoles or the community as I am not familiar (apart from BO2) with the game at that level. I wasn't speaking on a broader generalisation reflective of the console gamers and was just giving my thoughts based on my experiences from the PC title.

Patrick, I have no issue with people posting their opinions on why they no longer play or like Ghosts. I do, however, have an issue with people continuing to bash the game in this thread after they have stated their view. I simply wanted to know what everyone's thoughts were that left Ghosts to go play other games. This thread should probably be locked as people don't get it. Just a FYI, please go back and read statements by Adam, Brede and James. All 3 made negative remarks about people that still play Ghosts and that means me. Sorry I take offense to that!!!

I've never heard of this, just commenting as a "bookmark," so I can see what happens. Lol

Remember man, this isn't COD, we have dedicated servers, so the further you are away from it, the more jacked you will be. The dude thats closer will be fine. Also, there isn't any sort of connection smoothing for us, like CoD has, so it is impossible for someone to beast mode with a shitty connection. Gone are the days of Host Pro class perks

I haven't heard anything about servers being for rent on the ps4 yet, so no. Hopefully they implement this soon. At the same time though I hope they keep a large number of standard servers. In bf3 it was a pain in the ass to find a normal server.

Remember that several teammates will heal from one kit. Like I said, I got 16 in one game and not even a full game. Should have those 49 in 4 games

I see what your saying kyle, but the reason I dont play cod anymore is exactly because I dont think its as good as other avaliable games . doesn't mean im right, but that is the reason why I dont play it. The thread is " whats wrong with ghosts" and for me whats wrong is that I dont think its going to be as enjoyable as something else. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk

First, let's get back on topic. This is turning into exactly what I didn't want and that's a war over what game is better. They are different and let's leave it at that. Second, I don't appreciate those of you who condescend those of us that still play and enjoy Ghosts. ALL OF YOU that have made statements as such have included everyone that still plays. I find that a bit pompous and it pisses me off. Lastly, if I see one more statement about how much better Titanfall or BF4 or GTA is to Ghosts, I will ask to have this thread locked. Carry on!!

I think you can have at least two active at anyone time - so once one is used up / destroyed you can deploy another, you don't have to die to replenish your stock. There's also a field upgrade that lets you have 3 deployed (again I think). Of all the 'expert' challenges its up there with the ammo ribbon one (in support) in how easy it is to complete. Unlocking recon expert, now that's not easy.

go to Op Locker or Metro, throw kits at people in chokepoints, 6, 7, 8 ribbons per match guaranteed

Tens or hundreds of thousands like One Direction. Doesn't mean they ain't crap Seriously - yes sure its a massive title, but it would be really interesting to know how many people were playing CoD this time one year ago, or two years ago, compared to now. And same for Battlefield - I bet the gap has narrowed massively.

It was you that said ' just because you all feel a certain way doesn't mean the community as a whole feels that way'. Not me. My point was you were speaking for the community as a whole (accidentally i'm sure), and I was pointing out that this little once-CoD-loving community is not reflecting what you were saying.

Another reason.....DLC for battlefield. generally, we get new maps and vehicles/gamemodes Cod DLC - a fucking camo skin pack to put ducks on your guns.................

So many good weapons on this game, however I was struggling the other day and just hit up the ak5c? Carbine and went to town so at the moment its that, pretty much like most of the carbines even tho most kills with sar21 and Aug.

No one likes the DMRs I see. Currently I'm using the ACE 53 SV and I like it so far. The other classes of guns not too sure yet since I have not used any but the defaults.

Assault F2000- closing in on mastery for it PDW - as Val or ump45 Carbine - ace53qcb or acwr LMG - probably mg4, not in love with them. Sniper - Srr and the gol magnum Shotgun - not real sure, I use the shorty alot. Secondary - g18,shorty, p226

Found this: I remember one that said "you gonna cry carl? Cry like a biiiiiiiiiiiiitch?" but I couldn't find . Sorry for getting your hopes up by thinking someone replied to you, bees. x)