Leaderboard

Looks like the big part of this will be the full discord integration.

You're so sexy when you're angry, grrrrr

It sounds like you need to told to fuck off

I agree, more and better maps in MP are required, I never minded buying map packs in the past, as they used to always be pretty pretty solid. Also, I'm pretty sure this thread is going to make me wake up in a cold sweat one night after dreaming of a 6 year old @Diddums walking into school with a crate of hand grenades 🙈

I don’t disagree there. However you never know these days. People change about as much as they do their underwear

We need to spend more time together princess, we're drifting apart ❤️

Possibly by the end of January..... An N64 classic may be coming to Xbox Game Pass soon WWW.GFINITYESPORTS.COM One of the most beloved Nintendo 64 games may be coming to Xbox Game Pass...

I hope you’re joking.

It's an 18+ game, what the hell are 13 year olds doing playing it? This is why we have such a violent culture, 13 year olds playing corrodoory.

This won't make me buy a gamepass i'm afraid. No new news on making the port better than what we've seen not long ago.

Got the RPK and TAQ-V Gold tonight so not many LMGs to go. Nearly got Minibak (Closer Blueprint) although the Point Blank kills are killing me. Even on shipment can't seem to get up close enough. You've literally got have their face as your pixels on the screen and nothing else.

Bas P is gold. It's an alright gun, still an SMG. Definitely not the best one, still fun enough to use.

I think the ultimate point is no matter how much you like this Call of Duty, the amount of map content in the multiplayer aspect is pretty disgraceful really and everybody should feel this way under the circumstances irrespective of other positives of the product. It's far less than what we were getting over a decade ago and even Vanguard manage to deliver a strong and original pool of maps despite its various shortcomings in other areas. After a piddly 9 in WW2, 10 in MW2019 and about 7 in Cold War, it has really dismal return for the player in these titles and for a company that is so leaning towards retention, content quantity should be what really drives players coming back and not other factors such as gameplay or commercial. This may seem like a feature packed package with DMZ and Warzone, but Infinity Ward aren't responsible for those portions and have not actually developed any part of them so they are hardly under the cosh and spread thin of things to develop and maintain. I also don't buy into the philosophy that because there are other modes, I should expect less content in ones that I play to support others. I couldn't give a shit what happens in Warzone 2 - I don't want to see support declining just because there is another priority in the franchise that I, and many others aren't interested in. I respect Activision chase the money but that shouldn't mean some aspects are neglected especially on the main paid portion of the product irrespective of how many players it has compared to the free mode(s). Call of Duty 2022 essentially consists of 3 different games made by 4 different developers and over 3,000 staff which is an absolutely outrageous amount of resources and to receive less than 10 maps at launch on a game that costs upwards of £90 is a deplorable return really. Many people simply don't give a shit about DMZ or Warzone and they must be left feeling very alienated that the only part of the game that requires purchasing is being let down by a lack of content whether tactically done this way or by incompetence. Sledgehammer are creatively useless overall, but in the last 5 years and despite much internal upheaval, they've really tried their utmost hardest to deliverer gamers as much as possible in terms of playable content and this really should be the numeric standard expected for launch titles. All this with the smallest studio by a mile too. The loss of map packs has actually had a dire knock-on effect with the developers not obliged to deliver content by a quantity or on time - instead they hide behind 'seasonal' updates winged on the fly. Income lost from these are easily mitigated with easy bundle sales that cost nothing to develop and can be made in less than a couple of days. Many will still be satisfied with the current maps on show but all in all, there's no harm in wanting and deserving more.

https://media.tenor.com/Xm-LDB259JsAAAAC/anchorman-legend-of-ron-burgundy.gif

Dunno, I'm usually too drunk to judge.

Wasn't even anger 🤣🤣 but now I know what you like...😘 Also, I'm surprised your coined phrase 'New Content Everybody' hasn't come out here yet. Especially when you used it a billion times in Destiny threads. You happy with the content so far?

Stick to the OP please (reminding myself at the same time based on my early replies and Gary @techno trying his hardest to do the same lol 😅). I think Season 2 info, which I can't see why we wouldn't get something in the next few weeks given Season 1 finishes around then, should help us see how much content is likely to drop regularly into MP. I'm waiting patiently and also not going to hype it up as we know how previous CoDs have gone. As the talk about this one was supposed to be the only CoD this year is still not guaranteed, I think its okay to sit on the fence until we hear more info about content drops. I'm hoping for one brand new map at least next Season, alongside 2 older maps coming in - considering the Warzone large map clearly has another 2-3 old maps already situated on it. The map rotation isn't getting stale just yet for me though, but it won't be long I'm sure. I'll probably switch to more DMZ at that time.

How is it that a week earlier the same six year old brought bullets to school and told them he was going to bring a gun and nothing was done about it. Don’t be sheep

Well played (it's actually 17+ in the USA).

If only. How does a 6 year old learn to bring a loaded gun to school and shoot the teacher.

Like I've said in a previous thread probably but I think I'll give it a swerve as it'll probably sully my memory of one my favourite all time games. I might have been interested in a brand new game but the old shooting mechanics, more than graphics, have massively dated...at least my opinion when I haven't actually checked footage 😁

Still can't believe it isn't out yet. Ghastly amount of red tape must be going on. If it's just a port of the original then that will be disappointing - the unreleased XBLA version from 2008 was on another level and you could switch between new and classic graphics on the fly. From what I gather after the knee-jerk announcements last year, they are just going do what is essentially an emulated version that people have been playing for years through under the table means.

This is very sad news, Jeff was a true virtuoso in a league of his own.

With that kind of income, a smart man would be investing in property. Bricks and mortar and all that. If it was 20-30 years ago and in London the values would of skyrocketed for sure.

I guess you try when you no longer get banned for being mean to 13 year olds 😉

Sounds like I need to play all the modes so I can tell all of you that you're wrong.

DMZ came out with Building 21 which is a harder mission and different Area. The loot is different but not essential. There are 5 tiers of missions for the 5 factions. I think a content provide has just recently completed them all with his Squad. That aspect is more of challenge if that is what you want to do. I'm at tier 3 at this point and I don't think I've played MP in 3 weeks. It takes me no time at all to get a lobby so I can only assume that people are playing.

DMZ is still in beta but everything has been fairly quiet since launch. The tragedy with this mode is that it is probably more successful than they envisioned (player counts) which means they may not have a decent strategy or vision in place to see it continually develop. They likely saw the utterly miserable reception Battlefield Hazard Zone got and took their foot of the gas with this concept which is why it launched incomplete and lacking in many ways. They weren't very enthusiastic about it during its reveal event either which really rubbed off even on the content creators showcasing it. Hopefully they'll start making strides but I fear Acitvision wont want it heavily focused unless they can monetise aspects of it - I've always said that mode-exclusive bundles will probably happen for this at some stage if it maintains interest and that's what will keep Activision happy. It's a decent sandbox and more relaxed alternative to the highly criticised and corrupt Warzone 2. The real tragedy about brands like this and FIFA now is that even if you pay £60 for the game and put in 1000 hours, you aren't worth shit. Yet some dipshit paying £20 on microtransactions a month is way for valuable to these companies.

I fancy sticking my Xbox One on at some point. I'll take a look at the sales for Forza Horizon 4. Seems to hold its value well though atm.

You are up there but not alone I understand your complaint. However I don't agree with your perception of what COD is. What you are both complaining about is MP. Not COD. COD has been repackaged into MP, Co-op, WZ, DMZ. When go on the WWII site, I believe they make that quite clear. What purchase is MP, co-op and campaign. Those make your life easier if you play DMZ, Raid, WZ because you can level up you shit much quicker or you can chose to play that aspect. But they aren't dependent on each other What I believe people need to accept is that COD is not the product it use to be and the free content probably has more weight than that $69 content. The publisher will invest where the money is As for Raven/IW they don't make the decision. Activision does. Raven is even an Activision company That is true. If you look at their shareholder reports Their purchase games generate $900M (which is all of them) their subscriptions at $4.2B I believe. More than 4x. Why do you all think that Overwatch and destiny went free to play COD mobile generated $1.7B since release WZ I believe generated $800M in downloadable content in 2021. I didn't see anything for 2022 and Q4 just ended so that information should be available in the next few weeks That aligns a lot with what I am saying. I don't believe however they deliberately starve. They just have a limited number of developers and they invest in what generates the money. All tech companies do. It's also a lot easier to generate a black skin with a red LA on it that a decent map. That skin gets you $24. Pretty easy money. I don't remember how many maps the last blackops had. But it seemed like people always voted for the same ones, so I never played a number of them. All that to say that you know dam well that if Shipment, Nuketown, Range, Rust come up, that's what you are going to be playing so it really doesn't matter how much they add because people always go back to the same thing.

Warzone makes up about 90% of their post-release revenue from weighing up a few articles. In the original Warzone, they used to make in two months on cosmetics what they'd receive in unit sales total; of the entire standalone COD game. I think they deliberately starve or withhold content for the MP portion so they don't detract users away from Warzone especially in the early days. Player counts mean nothing now - it's all about the average user spend and that is inflated significantly in the BR mode. Once Warzone peaks and settles then it's a careful balancing act on content with the MP mode so they keep both happy without either losing players altogether or driving people away from Warzone. Treyarch really came out of the woodwork last year because people were not only abandoning Caldera but also Cold War so they continued supporting that along with Rebirth Island. The player counts are hidden and have been for a long time and the Steam API data is merged so it's hard to determine who plays what but based on the daily player counts previously announced for Warzone spanning tens of millions per day, the MP aspect is definitely nowhere close and probably less than what it was a decade ago.

Both great games, I slightly prefer the Mexican map, but yeah basically what @J4MES OX4D said goes for me too. Oh yeah and the seasons feature in 4 is pretty cool, it's not really a thing in 5 I don't seem to remember.