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Welcome to the only Gaming Forum you need! 
I don't play Destiny myself personally, but plenty of people here do!

Welcome to the only Gaming Forum you need! 
I don't play Destiny myself personally, but plenty of people here do!

Nuketown sounds great, it's dependable chaos that can be enjoyable from time to time.
 
I would love Kowloon or Grid. 
Now I know nobody has ever suggested such a ridiculous idea, but I will.
 
Daytime version of Hanoi from BO1 anyone? I'm serious! 
 
BO1 had a lot of DLC map packs and I loved most.
Give me Zoo or Berlin Wall anyday, I will play it. 😀

Welcome to the only Gaming Forum you need! 
I don't play Destiny myself personally, but plenty of people here do!

It's easily as good as the M16, has a slower rate of fire and more damage. Think with some attachments it could be top tier. It feels really beastly already. The steady aim laser makes it pretty disgusting in CQC also!
 
Just uploaded a few Cold War clips on my PPR. Not of the Aug, but check them out to see how I've got on if you want. No pressure tho James. I wouldn't be offended if you didn't watch them. ☺️

Ah I keep forgetting about the AUG because it's a tactical rifle rather than an AR in this game. I unlocked it a few days ago but completely forgot to add it to a class so thanks for reminding me! 

Yeah I've picked a couple up for a shot, it feels a lot like the BO1 spas and would probably work great with a silencer. Got pushed a few times on Crossroads Strike inside some of the buildings. Looked fairy strong.
A lot of guns need some attachments. The 74u with basic attachments is still good I agree. The MP5 just mauls people regardless of what attachments available.
The Hauer is satisfying but does take skill. You have to jink and dodge and weave to land the kills consistently at times.
Been using some of the AK47 and Aug a little. Both are strong guns for sure!

I haven't tried the Gallo yet as I just can't let the Hauer go but I did have a go with it during the beta and it was incredibly OP. Even if one shot doesn't get the kill, the fire rate is so rapid that you're practically guaranteed it on the next! I don't think I've been killed by it very much though. 
 
I've really been struggling to get going with an SMG class today - tried the MP5, Bullfrog and Milano yet I really struggled particularly with them being barebones. Thankfully the AK74u feels really good and I've unlocked some good early attachments so it's already handling well.  

That is a high level shotgun. You may as well get that bad boy gold James!
 
I started using that Hauer on a newly made Aug class. I must say it's particularly fun on Armada Strike/Checkmate B Flag Dom.
Best I've managed was a triple with it. Mine is only level 5 with a couple of attachments.
 
That Gallo shotgun looks nasty and spamable. Can imagine it's brutal once you stack a few good attachments on it.

This is my go to class currently

My shotgun level is worryingly high which means I'm using it too much😎

A quad was it? 😎 Yeah I keep forgetting you can use the cruise in bursts and split the missiles across the map. Personally I'm UAV/War Machine/Attack chopper.
 
For open maps like Satellite etc I use Artillery.
 
I know right! Was hardly an optimal choice of words. Or wait was it? 😋
I mean an LMG slow, but yeah things move slower when your stoned for sure. 👽

A quad was it? 😎 Yeah I keep forgetting you can use the cruise in bursts and split the missiles across the map. Personally I'm UAV/War Machine/Attack chopper.
 
For open maps like Satellite etc I use Artillery.
 
I know right! Was hardly an optimal choice of words. Or wait was it? 😋
I mean an LMG slow, but yeah things move slower when your stoned for sure. 👽

Yeah I started off with the XM4 and kinda abandoned it for better guns.
 
I recently started trying the Krig which feels excellent. I feel confident engaging enemies with it, it's faithful and solid.
 
The Qbz I used in the beta a lot and it's a beast. The full auto FAMAS looks good, only recently unlocked it so haven't quite used it.
 
My most used guns are M16,MP5,Stoner.
 
My go to class is just abuse. I run lawbreaker. So it's essentially overkill. M16 w/ MP5, then I run Flak jacket. Gung ho and ghost. Because you can muddle and mix perks.
I sometimes swap flak for tactical mask and take out gung ho for ninja.
But running 2 primaries I need the gung ho for the faster weapon swap.
 
I will have other classes once a weapon is maxed. I will probably have an AR with 7 attachments, ninja and a launcher to combat lack of ghost.
I will also run a perk greed class soon, so I can go with Flak/tact, Scav, Quartermaster, Ghost and ninja.
I do still have a danger close class with double stun and X2 frags.
 
The Stoner is slow, but damn it packs a punch. Seriously, apart from the slow ads. It shreds for real!
Only gets better once you start getting speed attachments. It is really tasty and slept on imo.
I use it with cold blooded and a launcher for anti air. Just recently tried gear head with assault pack field upgrade to rack in the score.
Shooting down UAVs are 100 to your streak, add a few kills and objectives. It's easy to get those attack helis out. 😁

Hey man!  

I love the Cruise Missle😎

Yeah I started off with the XM4 and kinda abandoned it for better guns.
 
I recently started trying the Krig which feels excellent. I feel confident engaging enemies with it, it's faithful and solid.
 
The Qbz I used in the beta a lot and it's a beast. The full auto FAMAS looks good, only recently unlocked it so haven't quite used it.
 
My most used guns are M16,MP5,Stoner.
 
My go to class is just abuse. I run lawbreaker. So it's essentially overkill. M16 w/ MP5, then I run Flak jacket. Gung ho and ghost. Because you can muddle and mix perks.
I sometimes swap flak for tactical mask and take out gung ho for ninja.
But running 2 primaries I need the gung ho for the faster weapon swap.
 
I will have other classes once a weapon is maxed. I will probably have an AR with 7 attachments, ninja and a launcher to combat lack of ghost.
I will also run a perk greed class soon, so I can go with Flak/tact, Scav, Quartermaster, Ghost and ninja.
I do still have a danger close class with double stun and X2 frags.
 
The Stoner is slow, but damn it packs a punch. Seriously, apart from the slow ads. It shreds for real!
Only gets better once you start getting speed attachments. It is really tasty and slept on imo.
I use it with cold blooded and a launcher for anti air. Just recently tried gear head with assault pack field upgrade to rack in the score.
Shooting down UAVs are 100 to your streak, add a few kills and objectives. It's easy to get those attack helis out. 😁

I started with the XM4 then moved onto the Krig 6 and am now trying out the QBZ-83 - all very poweful and enjoyable primaries. I've been using the Hauer 77 shotgun as a secondary which is now my highest leveled weapon - it's brutal and great fun to use. Not quite as filthy as the 725 from MW but it's fair. I use the danger close wildcard for two stuns and semtex. Perks seem slow to unlock so I've largely been rolling Flak Jacket, Gear Head and Gung-Ho although I can't wait to unlock Ninja. 
 
I think the Krig 6 is probably my go-to weapon though but despite the lack of weapons, the class system is pretty good. 

So far I'm level 16, so just used xm, AK-47, obligatory mp5.
 
Favourite map is crossroads, I back out of Miami rest are ok, depends how opposing team play if they're all head glitching, corner camping assholes then it will be shit regardless.
I think ranking needs to be quicker and they need to increase number of tags to win KC. It's almost impossible to reach moderate streaks and if you do say get your attack chopper chances are with this system you can't call it in as there's one up already.
Launched is my most used weapon lol... Unlocking ghost will help me change up secondaries.
 
I need ninja.

My experience so far, all I've been playing is Dom/KC solo.
 
Let me tell you, satellite is no fun (Dom) when your deeply pushed back to A.
Sometimes the halftime is a blessing, a saved by the bell moment. 
 
The garrison map is nearly identical to the tank factory map on MW. Not just because of the tanks, but the bridge in the middle and the layout is similar. 
Got hammered on crossroads strike one time, 2 guys headglitching barrels with M16 and the rest pushing your spawn with MP5.
Armada strike plays very well.
 
Not a huge fan of cartel and Miami is definitely the worst of all the maps. But having said, all maps are playable and not like MW's bad ones.
 
What guns have you guys been using? Perks? Any interesting setups or anything?

Haha, I do love Shipment. There is no spawn logic. It's easily the best map on MW. It's fun and easy to level guns.
 
If the original maps were better on MW I would play them more often. Or at least not whinge about them as much. 

Haha, I do love Shipment. There is no spawn logic. It's easily the best map on MW. It's fun and easy to level guns.
 
If the original maps were better on MW I would play them more often. Or at least not whinge about them as much. 

I hate to admit it, but James is pretty spot on. Now I have a lot of respect for J. You always have valid and logical explanations to your concerns.
 
But as you touched on, 8 maps for a premium triple A rated publisher/developer online multiplayer FPS is a disgrace.
 
That's the problem, it's not MP anymore, it's everything else. BR/Warzone etc. Zombies and campaign sure they have been about for years and that's fine.
 
But the main gripe here is they can't psychically produce all of it year in year out.
It will never happen, but if it was up to me BR/Warzone should be a separate entity. A different disc, a separate price. Make the base game 10-20 quid cheaper and charge like 20-30 for a separate Warzone game.
 
That way shitty warzone ain't filling my storage with it's obscene pointless Gigabytes. It took MW how long for Warzone? Can't remember, but ever since it's existence the game in general lags more. Ribbon challenges have more warzone challenges in it each season and more attention thrown on to it.
 
I would happy pay 50-60 quid for a "True" multiplayer experience with plenty maps and good support/content. The game lasts a year, it's not overpriced if it's fucking fantastic. Like those old BO 1/2 and MW2 days.
 
The microtransactions in BO4 were disgusting. But they left MP fizzle as they built BR up more.
I truly think the Warzone/BR aspect has ruined the MP experience for us old vets. 
 
Don't get me wrong if you enjoy warzone/br etc that's fair enough, I'm not going to play it because it's there or it's cool or all the updates and features are there. Fuck that!
All it is to me is a giant FFA, and FFA is the most boring game mode to me.
 
I remember playing a game of sabotage on wasteland on MW2 that lasted about 20-30 mins into triple overtime. Was ridiculous but fun thinking back.
 
I played demo on firing range and have been on both ends of spawn trapping. 
 
Activision are promoting and promising too much, but providing very little if you scroutinise a recent cod in detail.
 
It's a shit show at launch. Lack of maps, remakes. The same old guns usually. Terrible lag etc.
 
I swear there is an AK and an MP5 in the last 8 cod's or something. 
Kinda going off on a tangent here as I ramble. Oh yeah I preordered and I love Moscow the map on CW 😂

I hate to admit it, but James is pretty spot on. Now I have a lot of respect for J. You always have valid and logical explanations to your concerns.
 
But as you touched on, 8 maps for a premium triple A rated publisher/developer online multiplayer FPS is a disgrace.
 
That's the problem, it's not MP anymore, it's everything else. BR/Warzone etc. Zombies and campaign sure they have been about for years and that's fine.
 
But the main gripe here is they can't psychically produce all of it year in year out.
It will never happen, but if it was up to me BR/Warzone should be a separate entity. A different disc, a separate price. Make the base game 10-20 quid cheaper and charge like 20-30 for a separate Warzone game.
 
That way shitty warzone ain't filling my storage with it's obscene pointless Gigabytes. It took MW how long for Warzone? Can't remember, but ever since it's existence the game in general lags more. Ribbon challenges have more warzone challenges in it each season and more attention thrown on to it.
 
I would happy pay 50-60 quid for a "True" multiplayer experience with plenty maps and good support/content. The game lasts a year, it's not overpriced if it's fucking fantastic. Like those old BO 1/2 and MW2 days.
 
The microtransactions in BO4 were disgusting. But they left MP fizzle as they built BR up more.
I truly think the Warzone/BR aspect has ruined the MP experience for us old vets. 
 
Don't get me wrong if you enjoy warzone/br etc that's fair enough, I'm not going to play it because it's there or it's cool or all the updates and features are there. Fuck that!
All it is to me is a giant FFA, and FFA is the most boring game mode to me.
 
I remember playing a game of sabotage on wasteland on MW2 that lasted about 20-30 mins into triple overtime. Was ridiculous but fun thinking back.
 
I played demo on firing range and have been on both ends of spawn trapping. 
 
Activision are promoting and promising too much, but providing very little if you scroutinise a recent cod in detail.
 
It's a shit show at launch. Lack of maps, remakes. The same old guns usually. Terrible lag etc.
 
I swear there is an AK and an MP5 in the last 8 cod's or something. 
Kinda going off on a tangent here as I ramble. Oh yeah I preordered and I love Moscow the map on CW 😂

You've just highlighted my exact concern - Modern Warfare had a pretty limited map pool at launch hence why the same maps kept popping up. It's gonna be even more limited in Cold War plus the maps we've seen already (half of the final count) weren't exactly great either. 
 
Other COD's definitely weren't as bad as this - MW2 and BO1 both had way more off the bat which were all 6v6 appropriate and were designed to accommodate all the other modes on offer. It was a fine and varied selection. Nowadays the devs are not only giving us less content at launch, the maps that are there are split based on the playlist type so there may only be six 6v6 maps in Cold War.  
 
We should really be getting at least 12-15 original 6v6 maps for starters and if the playlist modes do split the maps then there should be 6 or so ground war on top - 2 is just lame really. 
 
Off the top of my head:-
MW2 had Afghan, Terminal, Highrise, Karachi, Underpass, Estate, Derail, Quarry, Favela, Skidrow, Sub Base, Invasion, Rust, Rundown, Scrapyard, Wasteland - that's 16 off the top of my head in the base game and I've probably missed a couple. Black Ops had Jungle, Summit, Firing Range, Nukertown, Array, Crisis, Cracked, Hanoi, Havana, Radiation, Villa, Grid, WMD and Launch. I've probably missed one there too but that's about 14. 
 
A poxy 8 maps for a premium multiplayer FPS game in 2020 is pretty disgraceful really and we already know recycled content is coming once again. 

Haha, I do love Shipment. There is no spawn logic. It's easily the best map on MW. It's fun and easy to level guns.
 
If the original maps were better on MW I would play them more often. Or at least not whinge about them as much.