Sennex

IDK, I want INT more than STR on my punchbro's IN PVP, that much INT stacked means way more charges or ground pounds

I still need a weekly, let me know if you want to run it EDIT: I frigging hate the Cryptarch Everytime I get an exotic engram for helmets, he turns it into a knucklehead radar. every........... fucking............ time I have 76 saphire wire now, purely because of this stupid damn helmet

Exotic Gear: Name Type Stats Currency Cost Peregrine Greaves Titan Leg Armor 152 Intellect SC 13 Crest of Alpha Lupi Hunter Chest Armor 150 Strength SC 13 Heart of the Praxic Fire Warlock Chest Armor 144 Discipline SC 13 Red Death Pulse Rifle SC 23 Exotic Shard Material SC 7 Exotic Engram Helmet Engram MoL 23 Location: The Tower, by the Vanguards

I assume PS4? If so, I need to save me up 30$

At this point, I am not planning on it. Bungie is going to need to change a lot of things about their attitude for me to shell out $40. I will continue playing until I have finished my bucket list though.

Graphically it is amazing the difference between the ps3 and ps4. I might jack around in multiplayer. I will lock the game down to friends list only though

Is Multiplayer seperate from single player? I had read somewhere that it wasn't. I have been thinking of mucking about in game, but also don't want to open my characters to the rampant death and loss of money that happens on line. At least not until I finish the story

link? I don't think I have you on steam

This was just posted over on Reddit. It sums it up nicely

I am finding that the content is there, you just have to dig outside the game. That makes zero sense to me; who thought that that was a good idea?

Sadly, this is how Every MMO ever made is.

This is a very large patch so we were unable to fit ALL the awesome changes into the preview blog. There are changes to the Hellfire event structure coming in the next patch. Keywardens will now directly drop Infernal Machines instead of Keys and the Hellfire Amulet now has a socket built in. Check them out once they hit ptr and let us know what you all think! =)

WB Games has stopped all sales of the game for PC's

Yea Canada and Australia get demolished in this Also, I wonder how hard this guy got chewed out. At the least I hope he learned to not let his ego run his mouth. Also, how exactly are micro-transactions an apology?

I have no idea why, but its a Folks music day for me

I am curious what is the point of this mode? Do you do heists together? Are there missions? Really confused because everything I see is people just mucking about killing each other and what not.

Because of this, I think one of my Destiny Bucket List items will be to get the Last Word

It hasn't been confirmed, it has been talked about, and Bethesda has said they will allow mods if SONY allows them The ball is in sony's court http://www.gamesradar.com/fallout-4-mods-will-be-ps4-if-sony-says-yes-2/

yea, pretty much, but still the stuff is cool to read

Searched, and requested

my castle thing is rebuilt, whats the name of the clan? I looked up Forever Gaming and didnt' find it

So to give a little Backstory on Dredgen Yor he was one of the most notorious Gunfighters that existed in Destiny. He held what was believed to be one of the Infamous "Weapons of Sorrow". Thorn is known only through hearsay and Folklore, its power is to be feared and thought to be a curse. Weapons of Sorrow are thought to be modified by Hive Arcana and are capable of influencing Guardians. The Weapons of Sorrow were believed to be nothing more than a myth. But even the darkest myths are born of some truths. Another Example of a Weapon of Sorrow is the Necrochasm. Any Guardian who comes across the weapon must ask some very simple questions with endlessly complicated answers: Is your Light bright enough to stand, even briefly, in full gaze of the Hive's abyss? Can it handle what has died and been reborn in those shadows? In the Crucible there was a known Champion, a Titan thought to be Invincible, Thalor. Titan marks are made to honor Individuals and Events that Stand out in History. His skill was great enough that a Titan mark was made to Honor abilities. Thalors Golden Maul. Until the Day the Invincible Titan crossed paths with Dredgen Yor and His Thorn. Thalor and Yor's battle in the Crucible was on an Epic Scale. So much so that their battle Earned its own mark, The mark of Contention. Its believed that Thorn drained the Light from Thalor, Killing him. If this is in fact true then Thalor joins a long list of names that Dredgen Yor killed. There are records of Yor and interactions that this Guardian had. But the records are not so easy to Translate. The records have been Tampered with and have had information redacted and censored. The first time I went into the Transcripts It confused me. All the names but no one listed as speaking. It list locations and Items as well but one is redacted. This newly discovered transcript is between 1 ghost type, designation redacted, and 1 Guardian Type that has had its class redacted. [u.1:0.1] You were not always this man. [u.2:0.1] True. [u.1:0.2] Then the math says you do not need to remain this man. You can be other. [u.2:0.2] I am other. [u.1:0.3] You can be better. [u.2:0.3] This is better. [u.1:0.4] That matter, at best, is subjective. [u.2:0.4] Then what? Lesser. [u.1:0.5] Some would say. [u.2:0.5] But what would you say? [silence] [u.2:0.6] All we’ve seen and now, here with me, you have no words. [u.1:0.6] I have words. [u.2:0.7] But…? [u.1:0.7] But you will not like them. [u.2:0.8] There is much I do not like. [u.1:0.8] More now than ever it would seem. [u.2:0.9] Heh. [u.1:0.9] I find no laughing matter in your path. [u.2:1.0] Only in the journey. [u.1:1.0] What brought you here was nobility. [u.2:1.1] And my prize. [u.1:1.1] That is no prize. [u.2:1.2] A curse then? [u.1:1.2] I would say. [u.2:1.3] And I would disagree. [u.1:1.3] You are no longer yourself. [u.2:1.4] I am myself. It’s who I was that’s gone. [u.1:1.4] Who you were held all the value. [u.2:1.5] To you. [u.1:1.5] To the Light. [u.2:1.6] The Light… [u.1:1.6] It is all. [u.2:1.7] It is nothing but a crutch. [u.1:1.7] One that has held you up. [u.2:1.8] Only just. And nothing more. [u.1:1.8] Nothing more? You were a hero. [u.2:1.9] And yet people still die. Corruption still exists. Light still fades. And Darkness still spreads. [u.1:1.9] As it will ever be, that doesn’t mean you give in to… [u.2:2.0] To what? Hope.* [u.1:2.0] This is not hope. [u.2:2.1] This is peace. [u.1:2.1] You have blood on your hands. [u.2:2.2] How’s that any different than prior? [u.1:2.2] Innocent blood. [u.2:2.3] Thats a Matter of perspective. [u.1:2.3] That’s the shadow talking. [u.2:2.4] And am I not. [u.1:2.4] The shadow? [u.2:2.5] Ya know… These past cycles, you’ve made an honorable effort. Tried your best to correct my course. But I don’t know it needs correcting. [u.1:2.5] And if it does? [u.2:2.6] Could be too late. [u.1:2.6] ‘Could be’ is a winding path. [u.2:2.7] Long way from where I was to where I’m going. [u.1:2.7] That is my hope. That there is still time. [u.2:2.8] For? [u.1:2.8] Corrective measures. The righting of our path. The cleansing of your shadow and a return to the Light. [silence] [u.2:2.9] Why’d you pick me? [u.1:2.9] It doesn’t work that way. [u.2:3.0] Was I special? [u.1:3.0] You were. [u.2:3.1] But only as special as any other. [u.1:3.1] You are all special. [u.2:3.2] Seems to contradict the word don’t it. [u.1:3.2] Not in my estimation. [u.2:3.3] If we’re all special, are any of us special? [u.1:3.3] Is that what you want? To be special? [u.2:3.4] Heh. [u.1:3.4] You dismiss, but it’s a very serious questions. Is that all you’re after? Is all of the death worth that badge? [u.2:3.5] Am I not already more than the rest? [u.1:3.5] Looking at you here, now. The smoke, ash and bone at your feet mark you as so much less. [u.2:3.6] Maybe. And yet here you are. [u.1:3.6] Meaning? [u.2:3.7] You have been at my side every step of the way. [u.1:3.7] Where else would I be? [u.2:3.8] Yet you disagree so thoroughly with my change in, perspective. [u.1:3.8] If only the change was simply one of perspective. You’re “evolution” was no choice. This is not you having come to an understanding after careful considered thought. This is corruption. [u.2:3.9] The shadows? [u.1:3.9] The Darkness. [u.2:4.0] Maybe so. [u.1:4.0] There is no maybe here. [u.2:4.1] And you think you can save me? [u.1:4.1] I rekindled your Light, it falls first to me to aid in its survival. [silence] [u.2:4.2] I tire of it. [u.1:4.2] You must try… [u.2:4.3] I tire of you. [u.1:4.3] [REDACTED]… [u.2:4.4] That is no longer my name. [u.1:4.4] I will not speak the other. [u.2:4.5] It doesn’t matter. This is where we part ways. [u.1:4.5] I will not leave you. [u.2:4.6] I am leaving you. [u.1:4.6] Without me, your journey ahead will be more than any one Guardian can handle. [u.2:4.7] That’s the point. It’s been sometime since you saw me as worthy of walking among those I once called brother and sister. Yet… anymore, I feel as though I am worthy of so much more. [u.1:4.7] Without me… You will die. [u.2:4.8] Someday. Won’t be the first time. [silence] [u.2:4.9] Consider this my last good deed. I am releasing you of the burden of my deeds, both done and yet to come. [u.1:4.8] I will not abandon you. [u.2:5.0] You will. Or I will carve the Light from your shell and leave the carcass of my first and last friend in the dirt of this dull, red world for no one to find. [u.1:4.9] Then I’ve failed you, completely. [u.2:5.1] Not me. Maybe the man I was. [u.1:5.0] He is truly dead. [u.2:5.2] I believe so. [u.1:5.1] Belief is not fact. [u.2:5.3] Semantics I no longer have the patience for. [silence] [u.2:5.4] When you speak of me, use my proper name. Tell them of the man that stands before you, not the ghost of the hero I once was. [u.1:5.2] You will always be [REDACTED] to me. [u.2:5.5] If you cannot let that man go, you will forever taint his legacy. All the good I have ever done will be washed away in the fire of who I have become. [u.1:5.3] If you care, there is still some promise within you. [u.2:5.6] If I am being honest, I care only to give hope to the frightened, huddled masses so that when I come upon them they will have more to lose. Their pain will be greater. Their screams more pure. [u.1:5.4] You… [u.2:5.7] Nothing dies like hope. I cherish it. [u.1:5.5] You’re a monster. [u.2:5.8] Finally, you see the truth. [u.1:5.6] [REDACTED] is truly dead. [u.2:5.9] So I’ve said. Long live Dredgen Yor. [u.1:5.7] This is farewell, but you can only run from your sins so far. In the end, you will die alone. [u.2:6.0] Maybe so. But I gotta tell ya… I tend to like my odds. [u.1:5.8] Your tainted “Rose” will not always save you. [u.2:6.1] Old friend… It already has. For a long time I have held the theory that Jaren Ward and Dredgen Yor were the same Guardian. There are a few interesting similarities. In my Death of Jaren Ward video the Narrator, who I believe is Shin Malphur, says that Jaren's ghost speaks but only with Jaren and that the ghost is wary and guarded. Secondly, they hide the original name of Dredgen Yor. Why? To preserve the name of good guardian he was before the Shadows took hold of him. Is that Redacted Name Jaren Ward? One Idea I had was that this may be the instance that the Ghost returned to Shin Malphur after leaving Dredgen to himself. Now lets look at a few other details that would argue against them being the same person. Dredgen says he would carve the light from the ghost shell and leave him on this Red World. Is this a reference to Mars? If it is then this is the first reference. Looking back at the Arms and Armament book it list the names of planets Earth, Mercury, Venus, and Mars. This may be that Tie in. Secondly, before this conversation takes place, smoke ash and Bones lay at Dredgens feet. He has just burned something recently. Possibly the Town of Pallamon, or Possibly victims on a crucible map on Mars which would make more sense. So what are your Ideas? I've always liked the theory that Ward and Yor were the same man. Looking at the details of this part make me think there is still alot yet to be discovered and they may indeed be different people. One thing is certain, no matter which way you think this one of the best Stories in Destiny.

Punch Bro Saint! Whats not to love! ----------------------------------------------- Now I Think that there may possibly be more of this story in The House of Wolves Expansion coming soon. If there is more, I may do a follow up, but there certainly is enough to talk about This Incredible Exo. Saint-14 began life like any other Exo in Destiny. His conscience was birthed. This is the Deep Stone Crypt. This is the tower where we were born. Not the Tower. Just a tower in a dream. The tower stands on a black plain. Behind the tower is a notch in the mountains where the sun sets. The teeth of the mountain cut the sun into fractal shapes and the light that comes down at evening paints synapse shapes on the ground. Usually it's evening when we come. The ground is fertile. This is good land. We go to the tower in dreams but that doesn't mean it's not real. Some of us go to the tower in peace. They walk through a field of golden millet and a low warm wind blows in from their back. I don't know why this is, because: The rest of us meet an army. You can ask others about Deep Stone and they'll tell you about the army. They might confess one truth, which is this: we have to kill the army to get to the tower. Usually this starts bare-handed, and somewhere along the way you take a weapon. Ask again and if they're buzzed they might also admit that most of us don't make it to the Tower, except once or twice. None of them will tell you that the army is made of everyone we meet. The people we work with and the people we see in the street and the people we tell about our dreams. We kill them all. I think because we were made to kill and this is the part of us that thinks about nothing else. Often I kill people I don't know, but like most of us I think I knew them once, in the time before one reset or another, when my mind was younger and less terribly scarred. So that is how we go back to the Deep Stone Crypt, where we were born. The Deep stone crypt is what every Exo experiences when their conscience is being created, its a subroutine program. Now at the end of that It says in the time before one reset or another. Its possible to rewrite an Exo's conscience. You have seen several Rewritten Exo's in the Tower. Characters like Cayde 6 and Banshee 44 names end in numbers because thats how many times that particular Exo has been rewritten. Hang around Banshee 44 long enough and you will hear him try to recount things he has been through but can't quite remember. There is even a mark to recognize this Journey. The mark of The Deep Stone Crypt. Saint 14's Crusade began because of an event that marked the beginning of a new age in Destiny, the age we are in now known as the City Age. The event that occurred was the Battle of Six Fronts. At one point a large force of Fallen Pirates saw Humanity forming a city underneath the Traveler, a place of refuge and safety. The Fallen only saw a city full of resources. This is simply too good of a target for Pirates to pass up. They surrounded the City. There were only 4 orders of Titans to defend it. The only plan that they could come up with in the short time before the attack was for the 2 larger orders to defend 2 sides of the city and for the 2 smaller orders to hold only one. The simple plan of Defense above all else, the Titans final order of "Hold the Line" was the winning factor. From this battle the most common Titan mark was created. A hexagon split into 4 sections showing the Unity of the Titans orders. Anyone who has played the Titan class is familiar with the mark of Unity. Its the first emblem you are given to use. In the aftermath the decision was made to create the great wall that defends the Last city to this day. After this battle there were detractors. Guardians who thought that they should have charged the Fallen instead of letting them retreat and regroup. This is known as the mark of the lost charge. A zealous few sneer at the legend of Six Fronts. Our invincible defense was a waste, they say. We should have charged. This is where Saint-14 came in. He was of the mind set of lets go on the offense against these Pirates. Saint-14 was a sensible, "to the point" type of Titan. He said once "I have found that Rarest Treasure, a pragmatic Warlock". He believed in dealing with things in a sensible and realistic way that is based on the practical instead of being theoretical. In this Titans mind, he wanted to charge towards the enemy, he saw the threat that The Fallen posed. "Saint-14's Position argues that the Darkness was an invading armada, an alien force of incredible - but tangible - power. Some adherents believe that this armada sprang from species rejected or discarded by the Traveler for their sins." He saw the Fallen as being rejected from the Light for their pillaging ways, and that we should take action against them to protect the Last city. The city Consensus had a different plan. To use their resources and have the Titans to construct the First Wall. The Wall was created, so the Consensus didn't seem to side with Saint-14's Ideas. Once, this Exo said "A singer came to me, saying, 'You protect me, and I do nothing in return.' I told him to sing, and he understood." Saint-14 also saw the the Roles that people play as important. He also saw the advantage In Guardians to help him on his crusade. Some suggest Saint-14's legendary vigil was enabled by a few roaming Hunters and their bloody culls. Now this is where we get into a bit of theory. I think that Saint-14 was a fan of something called the Firebreak Order. The Mark of the New Front reads: The Firebreak Orders strive to draw the battle away from the City and its Interest". In this Order there are references. "The trick isn't landing the Headbutt, its disengaging when you get stuck." and "Some accuse the Firebreak orders of Mindless aggression, but their rabid aggression is quite deliberate" I say that there may be a connection because of the greatest Story of Saint-14. He came face to face with a great Kell. A Kell is a Master of a Fallen house and they believe themselves to be Royalty. To defeat a Kell meant the Fallen House would fall into disorder. Legend holds that they Grappled with each other and Saint-14 ended the fight with one blow, a Headbutt . When I look at the Helmet I can't help but notice what look like dents in the metal. The Helm of Saint-14 reads "He walked out into the demon light. But at the end he was brighter" Paean to Saint-14. Although I think that Paean is a character we don't yet know lets look at the name. A Paean is a Song of Praise or Triumph. Also it is a thing that expresses enthusiastic praise. I doubt this is coincidence. I see Saint-14 as take charge, realistic and wise Exo Titan. Deserving of praise for his Triumph.

Lore is good..... yes? ------------------------ Why was Osiris Exiled? Its a story that begins with the Speaker. Osiris was actually an Apprentice to the him. On the Bond of the Exile it reads "They who entered the Speaker's chambers as master and apprentice were bitter rivals when they left." —Brother Vance. Sister Faora another of Osiris's Disciples once said "Was he exiled? Did he leave willingly? Was the parting angry? Peaceful? Is he dead? Alive? In a word: yes." Well The Speaker himself once reflected on their falling out. What drives a Warlock to madness? Ghosts choose those suited to war and heroism to be reborn. By nature or circumstance they go to battle against the Darkness, and through this battle they learn how to use the Light. But Warlocks, by their nature, fight a second, internal war. This is the war to understand a universe of secrets— a world that expects Guardians to fight without full knowledge of what they are or what they might hope to achieve. You were a mighty warrior. I watched you at Six Fronts, and heeded the call of Saint-14 to appoint you Vanguard Commander, even when the Concordat claimed to have records proving you were a Golden Age experiment mis-incarnated as a human by an inept Ghost. Saint-14 assured me you were just a man without much patience for confusing messages. I watched as you grew tired of strike missions and the grueling, unproductive sessions with the Cryptarchs. That was when I took you under my wing. I saw our future in you. But your curiosity was voracious— How much of a Guardian’s personality and memories were true? How much had been fabricated by their Ghost? Did Guardians share particular personality traits— a willingness to yield to authority, a tendency to do anything anyone asked for the promise of uncertain reward, a blind knight-errant mentality? Had the Traveler manufactured all of you as living weapons? I admit, I found your questions divisive and disloyal, and I feared you might be capable of breaking our unity when the City’s position had grown so tenuous. Why divert attention away from the Traveler, our only hope? And then it got worse, dabbling in thanatonautics, Ahamkara-lore, chasing after Xur and the tricks of the Nine. Launching expeditions into the Reef and beyond at a time when ships were irreplaceable. Your quest split Guardians along ideological lines. This was your greatest crime: Hunters chose to pursue your visions instead of protecting refugees, Titans assembled teams to chase the legendary Vault of Glass instead of striking the Fallen, and Warlocks turned away from the study of the Traveler in favor of your ultimate obsession… learning the exact nature of the Darkness. When debate became argument, and argument became acrimony, I realized you had already become a cult of personality, attracting Guardians who wanted a clear idea of why they were fighting, what they faced, and how they would ultimately win. I don’t know where you have gone, but I can no longer send Ghosts out to find you. Some come back— with tales of your death or how you went seeking answers from the far reaches of space and time. That you found a way to explore the Vex gate networks. That you’ve made breakthrough after breakthrough as to their origins— theories that a Guardian could not be simulated, that the Traveler might be an onto former or a god-incubator, that the Vex had diverged into multiple groups in order to secure ‘an end state for every possible configuration of reality’. I fear you have become as obsessed with the Vex as Toland was with the Hive. I’ve heard your own insane prophecies about pits and dead Hive kings. And of Crota, which now I cannot deny. I hear stories of Lord Shaxx meeting with fireteams of Warlocks who have no shadow and never blink. Of jumpships slipping into the Reef on cold trajectories and meeting no intercept. Of questions hidden in matter engrams and answers decrypted on distant battlefields. Perhaps you are still out there. If this reaches you, I would very much like to speak with you, to hear your theories in your own words. Perhaps what drives a Warlock to madness is truth. The Speaker says that ghost comeback with stories of Osiris's Death and how Osiris figured out the secrets of the Vex gates. Sister Faora said is Osiris dead or alive and simply answers yes. Is it possible that the great Osiris died but somehow through the vex network is still alive and communicating? Standing by Brother Vance he seems to speak to Osiris as if he still lives. Its as though Osiris is in a state of Temporal flux. Now something that may surprise you is Brother Vance is actually blind. If you hang around Vance long enough he will tell you quite alot. He will say "I may be Blind Guardian but I know you are there" and "I lost my sight long ago but there are other senses". The interesting thing about this is though is why he is Blind. In the Cult of Osiris there are 2 important documents. The Parables of the Allspring and the Fractal Scrolls. Parables themselves are short stories meant to teach Moral and Spiritual lessons. One thing mentioned in the Parables is on the Sniper rifle the Eye of Sol which means the Eye of the Sun. "The sun took my sight, so the Sun became my eyes" Brother Vance has all the Candles around him for a reason. They help him concentrate. This may be related to the time they spent in Exile on Mercury. Yes I said They. When Osiris was exiled he didn't seem to go alone. In the Fractal scrolls it says "Many followed him when he left—if not with their feet, then with their hearts." Osiris took his disciples to Mercury... But Brother Vance will tell you none of them are ready for Mercury. What the Vex did to the planet left lasting changes. Legends say that Mercury was once a garden world. Now its surface, baked in the Sun's glare, is honeycombed with forgotten Vex structures. Executor Hideo himself went there, This is what he reported. There was no one there when we arrived. We approached peacefully and kept our weapons holstered. The sights we saw… Executor, Mercury is a beautiful place, and forbidding. On descent we mapped sprawling patterns of Vex light, an entire metropolis of unknown purpose. The Spires strobe with lightning. A mist of burnt rock or some other effluvia blows across landscape cut into circuits the size of cities. There is an atmosphere, as in all post-Traveler records. The Vex have not disposed of it. From the surface the Sun is too large and too dim. Perhaps it is the influence of the Vex constructs distorting the image. Perhaps Mercury is in many places at once. We stood for some time staring into the solar fire. I hold myself responsible for the delay. The site we were invited to is clearly a Cult of Osiris camp. We found stores of Glimmer, equipment, and books. A grounded ship of conventional design rests unguarded. The architecture is clearly, self-evidently Vex, but it has been ornamented extensively with fabrics and ritual objects of unknown provenance. I became convinced during the inspection that we were being watched. We ordered our Ghosts to stay close. One of my Fireteam suggested we search for connections to the Trinary Star cultists, but if they exist we couldn’t see them. We inspected the carvings and trinkets left by the Osiris cultists. All of us began to depart from ordinary experience. My Exo teammate described the sense that she was buried beneath an enormous, operating mass— locked up in a tiny crevasse at the bottom of a labyrinth or mechanism. My Awoken teammate felt an ongoing sense of deja vu: her actions were precessed by an infinite echo, an anticipation of all her choices. She became volatile and erratic. She insisted that we were surrounded. I remember a low ringing sound and a sense of numb filth, like gravel rubbed into a wound. I experienced a sense of immanence, as if I was bleeding into the world around me. It was uncomfortable and profoundly alienating. I perceived all my actions as determined and inevitable. My Ghost commented that the Traveler had made something of this world, and then Vex had eaten that something. We gathered the treasure left for us and departed as quickly as we could. This concludes my report. May it bring some advantage to our cause. It seems that the Vex Network leaves you with a sense of Perpetual Deja vu. This makes complete sense when you think about the Vex and how they travel through time itself. The Machines on the planet have left a lasting effect. While on Mercury, Osiris seems to have come up with a need for a special fireteam. Brother Vance will tell you "If you seek Osiris you must begin with the Trials. He has left his Disciples in locations to search for such a team. This is a encrypted message Between two of Osiris's people. My brother, Despite all of Shaxx’s work with the Crucible, we must accept that the Tower may never be ready to accept the Trials. But, as many Guardians flock to the Reef, we are suddenly presented with not one opportunity, but two. Go to the Reef. Tell Guardians your story. Give passage to any Guardian that requests it. If the Tower learns of this, do not fear. If they know of the Trials, the Tower will not suspect your other motive for dwelling so close to the margins between Light and Dark. Your sister, Faora More of Vance's Dialogue is "Why do you make me deal with this Shax, Master... is it a test? He will even ask if you are the one who faced Crota? Osiris is not only looking for a good fireteam but one that has entered a Hive Realm and returned victorious. The Cult of Osiris wants something. Whatever it is, it might be obtained through violence. The Trials are a competition built to identify Guardians who never lose. Unlike solitary Toland, Osiris left a network of acolytes and admirers who carry on his work. The Cult invites only select Guardians to their tournament, and only in teams of three. The Cult wants effortless teamwork, inexorable momentum, and something else: consistency, perhaps, or luck, or fate. Any fireteam that loses three matches is ejected from the tournament. Brother Vance also raises 2 curious question to me. The first question He ask you is "What does he say about the Nine?" Now I've always thought the Speaker wanted the Nine to help. That the Nine were some kind of Major power on the edge of the Solar system. Well on several pieces of the Trials gear it states "Don't you find it strange that the one called The Speaker rarely has anything useful to say?" —Sayings of the Disciples. It is odd that the Speaker with his Vast Knowledge of the Traveler seems to be nothing more than a Spiritual Leader rather than a Practical one. The second question Vance ask is this: "Ask yourself, what would you do if the Speaker was proven a charlatan". Some of My Other Lore Post: