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Ok I've accepted everyone into the group - I think I need to play some Destiny before we can upgrade it to a clan, but my copy hasn't turned up yet. It might be some of you lucky peeps who got it today can get into the clan first I've promoted Stretch to administrator, anyone else?

Competitive mp is only a tiny piece; it's mostly co-op.

How can you not be?! Warlock first for me, no question.

I've made a clan, Forever Gaming , FG clan tag, that's how excited I am. We need three members before we come off probation though so go to bungie.net and search for it Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Well England have qualified as group winners then

PS4 and Hunter....and loving it! /gloat

What we managed to acheive on our first night (apart from shouting at each other and avoiding spiders!):

Retreat map

Thanks for the heads up about Game, Gary, mine was a day early as well ! Half way through the 15.89 GB install now then off to download the Vanguard gear before it gets busy Even the install backdrop pictures look gorgeous!

I believe it's a code that will be inside the actual game box or possibly printed on your receipt from the store you pre ordered from

I'm ready for this. I may go pick it up at midnight tonight

They said the servers open as soon as it's Sept 9th somewhere in the world. Which it is.

Here is a list of hidden codes you can enter on bungie.net for emblems and such. Nothing major but thought it was cool http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2fmp4u/all_25_codes

Well, I'll be damned. You are good for something. Thanks.

Watchin' a pretty cool Metallica/300 vid at the moment. There's some pretty cool stuff music/movies on youtube if you search for it.

I'm not in the slightest. Competitive FPS just don't appeal to me anymore, most likely because I've become shyte at them though

Germany 1-0 Scotland half time. Germany 5-0 Brazil halt time. Scotland = better than Brazil.

Nah not really it will be delivered Tues but as I have work won't really get a decent go till the weekend, not too fussed about mp and raids idea sounds terrible but it will hopefully be good single player, its a break from bf4. Think first class will be titan.

Really excited about this and hope it gets delivered ok on Tuesday. Like Stretch, I can't take the day off but will try and get a few hours in Tuesday evening. Me and Mrs P. are away for a week so that'll set me back a bit but I've also got another week off after that so......

It was 50/50 the driver pulled out in front of traffic, regardless of the speed he was driving without due care and attention. I am a biker and yes the biker has to share some of the blame the speed in the right place is no problem but that really wasn't the right place, we know as bikers car drivers don't see us so with the situation I would have been significantly slower due not only to on coming traffic turning but just because of the junction, but I would also move in my lane to draw eye contact towards the movement. Had he lived both would have been prosecuted.

The Old Man and the Sea by Hemingway is a great read and a total classic. I read it for the first time last summer and loved it. Into The Wild by Jon Krakauer is a true story look at what the movie was based on and very moving with things that were true yet not in the movie, great read. Walden by Henry David Thoreau is a good read. I'm about 60% done with that one. Good read, but be warned, it's written in old English style (1800's) and a bit hard of a read, but good.