|FG| Clan Wars Thread - Campaign Update in OP 05-12-2013

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CALL OF DUTY CLAN WARS - OAHU ISLAND FINISHES MONDAY 09 DECEMBER AT 20.00 GMT (12.00PST)

 

THe list below are the games that count towards Clan Wars and the number of wins required to control a node. Please see Bob's (Baabcat) informative post on pages 4 and 5 later in this thread to understand how scoring and control of nodes works. Bob is now our official Clan Wars Guru!

 

In addition to this post, additional points are now awarded for controlling nodes. If you can download and get a copy of the Call of Duty:Ghosts app working on your phone or tablet it's well worth it now as the info they post isn't "cut and paste-able"

 

See http://www.charlieintel.com/2013/12/04/second-clan-wars-is-officially-underway-rewards-and-achievements-detailed/ for further details

 

We are currently in Gold Division

 

KC (50 wins)
HCKC (50)
TDM (150)
HCTDM (50)
BLITZ (50)
S&R (32)
DOM (300)
CRANKED (50)
HUNTED (50)
S&D (80)
 

I'll update the OP as each new competition comes out but it will always be behind as they don't give you much notice - it was posted last night almost as the campaign started.

 

I suspect it will always be a 5 day campaign now starting at the same time with just some game modes changing. If you here different or see it before me post up in the thread and I'll update OP when I can

 

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This is the latest for clan wars from the app

 

 

Hope you can read it OK as it was screenshot emailed to myself then Photobucket..... why can't you copy and paste from the app?? 

 

No rules or times yet so I imagine that will be last minute! Sorry if I sound cynical but with 6 days to go you would have thought there would be more info available.  If you have the app, please chack it every so often and post it up if you see anything

 

It should be interesting to see how they're going to score this with multiplatform clans.

 

Don't forget you have to be on the app clan roster to be involved so those of you who were kicked and re-invited please leave your old clans on Elite, create a Call of Duty account if you haven't already and accept the invite

 

Good job my hair can't get any greyer!

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Found this but I'm on my phone and its a pain to copy and paste from it.

http://www.charlieintel.com/2013/11/20/new-details-on-clan-wars-for-ghosts-war-starts-nov-25th/

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Try this - I can't connect to charlie intel for some reason

 

 

[ChaosGladiator 811]

I want dis. Badly.

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From One of Swords

 

http://oneofswords.com/2013/11/everything-you-need-to-know-about-clan-wars/

 

 

 

Everything you need to know about Call of Duty Clan Wars

by Dan on November 20, 2013

Call of Duty Clan Wars are about to begin. Are you prepared?

Clan Wars are about to break out in Call of Duty: Ghosts – metagame battlegrounds that add a layer of strategy and focused cooperation to the already frenzied competition of Call of Duty multiplayer. Before the first Clan War gets underway on Monday, November 25th, you might want to know how this war will play out and more importantly, exactly what you’re fighting for. The spoils of war are potentially great…

The Origins of War
The idea for Call of Duty Clan Wars obviously has its origins in Call of Duty Elite’s Clan Operations — “the concept of having your Clan play together in some coordinated fashion,” says John Linden, studio head of Beachhead. “A lot of people did it — it was amazing watching the numbers — but it had several flaws, even though it was a cool concept. It wasn’t fully satisfying, it wasn’t fully integrated to the game.” Several people, including developers at Infinity Ward and Neversoft, shared ideas and collaborated with Beachhead on how to add something large, strategic, and team-based to the Call of Duty experience. “I talked to a lot of different guys,” says Linden. “We wanted to revamp Clan Operations, and they had some ideas floating around. We went through a whole range of different concepts — hex-based concepts, ladder-based concepts — all over the place. But we really wanted to have these team strategy type elements. So we took it and ran with it, and worked with IW to make sure there were some really strong integration points.”

While concepts were discussed long before, the first workable prototype for Clan Wars came together around February or March of this year. “Obviously, it doesn’t look anything like that now,” says Linden with a chuckle. “I think originally we started testing against Modern Warfare 3 data, and we saw that it was fun — people would really get into it and start creating these rivalries.”  The team has been refining the concept ever since, taking special care not to intrude on the gameplay that 40 million people already love. “We wanted to make sure we took the right approach around the strategy element,” explains Linden. “We didn’t want to force it down people’s throats; we didn’t want to change the balance of the game; we didn’t want to take people out of matches to think through the strategy element. We wanted to keep people playing.”

The Clan Wars map view shows you the lay of the land — and where your Clan leader wants to focus the team’s effort.

Modes Equal Nodes
Clan Wars is a metagame that takes place on top of the multiplayer game you’re already playing. The various game multiplayer game modes in Call of Duty: Ghosts match up to a node on the Clan Wars map, which you can view from the free Call of Duty app (click here to download it or here to watch a quick video showing what the app offers). One Clan War node might be tied to your success in Hunted; another might be linked to Hardcore Kill Confirmed. As you and your Clan members play multiplayer matches in those modes, you’ll be racking up points that will let you take control of the matching nodes. Controlling those nodes pays off in in-game bonuses and, if you’re really good, unlockable items for your soldiers. Since Clan Wars is layered on top of what gamers are already playing, it’s something that casual, social Call of Duty gamers as well as more dedicated, competitive players can all enjoy.

In fact, your participation in Clan Wars, like your activity within a Call of Duty Clan itself, can be entirely passive. “It doesn’t hinder you,” confirms Linden. “Most likely, if you you’re in a Clan of at least three people but you never get the mobile app and never really pay attention to Clan Wars, you’re going to get bonuses in the game every now and then. But you’re not going to win the overall War if you’re not paying attention to it, or if you don’t have a Clan leader directing the team. If you don’t add that level of strategy, you’re not going to win.”

Every two weeks you’ll get matched up with a new batch of seven other rival Clans. You might find yourself battling some familiar foes more than one week, but “there are a lot of Clans out there, so hopefully you’ll see a lot of variety and mix it up.” In this case, “a lot of Clans” means any Clan with at least three members in it — they’re eligible for Clan Wars and will be automatically enrolled when the system gets underway.

Fair Fights
Call of Duty players hate lopsided lobbies, and they will bail on a match if they feel it’s hopeless. Beachhead is well aware of that, so Call of Duty Clan Wars are designed to be fair fights. “Your Clan will get ranked into one of four divisions,” explains Linden. “We have a new matchmaking system, which takes into account the skill and size of your Clan at the beginning of the War. You don’t want to get one group with 100 people where they all play 15 hours a day versus a group of 100 people with four active players playing two hours a day. You’d get crushed; it wouldn’t be a good balance.”

The Clans you battle will be chosen based on your own Clan’s skill and size.

With eight teams and 10 locations in each Clan Wars, the math clearly works out in the players’ favor; the trick will be how to control enough of those points over time to win the whole event.”That’s one of the game designs we really focused on this year,” says Linden excitedly. “We wanted everybody to have a shot. I’m not a big fan of games where it’s a two-week battle, and on the second day, I had something to do, and then suddenly, I don’t want to play the next 12 days, because I can never catch up. So we tried to build a game that allows you to have a fair fight. And obviously, if you don’t play as much, you will ultimately lose — but it’s the kind of thing where you can definitely take over territories and earn bonuses in the game, and fight over these different pieces.”

All For One, XP For All
Those bonuses in the game are desirable and immediate, which make them strong motivators to players who like both a little direction and instant gratification in their multiplayer matches.”We tried to have short-term goals and longer-term goals,” reveals Linden. “Short-term goals are basically XP multipliers — those are tied back to the nodes, which are tied back to the game modes. So say our Clan took over a spot that was tied to Blitz, because we hit the target amount of wins as a Clan first, and we might get a 25% XP bonus — 1.25 times every XP point in multiplayer in that mode until we lose that node to another Clan. As soon as a Clan takes that away, you’ll see it in the game. You can see it in the playlist, even — you’ll suddenly see which of your modes you’re getting bonuses for in the game, and if you lose the node, you lose that bonus.” What’s more, rewards are global. “If I take over a Core TDM node of the Clan Wars map, the XP bonus applies to all Core TDM matches in the whole game,” says Linden. That includes TDM matches that might show up in Moshpit playlists.

The data in the lower right shows your Clan’s current Clan War bonuses.

With 10 spots on the map and up to eight Clans battling in each Call of Duty Clan War, someone will always hold more than one point – which means bonus XP in multiple playlists. “There are more game types than we have locations, and you might even find some doubling-up sometimes; we’ve tested that at well,” says Linden. “If you’re playing TDM, maybe that affects two locations in different ways. We’re experimenting and seeing how that plays out.” Linden notes that many things are changeable;  that 25% boost offered as an example, for instance, is not set in stone. Along with varying the game types, the bonus rewards will also change with each Clan War.

“If you’re in Clan Wars and you take a node or a territory, you will get that bonus, and you’ll see it in the game — it will be very apparent,” says Linden. “I think in the match summary in the end, it’ll break out a line-item for your Clan Wars XP bonus. And that is real-honest-to-goodness individual Call of Duty multiplayer XP. There will be Clan XP as well at the end of the war, and there are also other rewards at the end of the war as well — mostly items in the game.”

The Prize Is Right
Those in-game items are the ultimate souvenirs of a Clan War. One of the prizes available for the first war include an exclusive Triad reticle. “You can see that if you’re flipping through the reticles currently in the game,” says Linden. “When your Clan wins its first War, you unlock that reticle. There’s also a patch that is exclusive to this War; you’ll get that if you’re in the top three teams out of the eight. If you don’t place in the top three, then unfortunately you won’t get that patch; there will be a different patch for the next War. They’re kind of fun, goofy patches — there are yetis and skulls and pirates in there. I think they’re going to be popular.” And once those patches are gone, they’re gone; there are no plans to reissue patches in future Clan Wars. “If you miss the War, you’ve lost that opportunity,” confirms Linden. “We’ve tried to make it so that you don’t want to miss the Wars.”

“There are four divisions, and some of the prizes are only for the top two divisions,” continues Linden. “Some of them will be for everybody — there will be things you can always earn no matter what division you’re in — but there will be some items we want to hold out for Clans who are very competitive. We want to make sure that the players who are really putting a lot of work into it, playing hard and playing as a team, get some benefit.

Some of the Body Count armor

Body Count
The first personal soldier gear awarded by Clan Wars is the red-accented Body Count armor, some pieces of which you can already see in the game’s Create a Soldier customization menus. Different parts of this armor will be released as part of Clan Wars, so you can build up a full outfit over time if you win consistently. “We worked with IW on this, because really wanted to have something you could wear, fully coordinated,” reveals Linden. “You earn it over time over different Wars, and you’ll pick up different pieces. But the idea is that your entire Clan could wear it and look cool with it. It does stand out, it’s a little loud, but we wanted it a little loud. If you are unlocking this stuff, you are the best, so it’s taunting a little bit. Other items are in blacks and grays and greens and browns – but this is ‘Hey, look at me, I’m in red!’ It’s for people to show off, ‘I’m kicking ass and taking names.’ And that’s the feedback we got from Clans, too — Clans want to be, like, ‘look at us.’ We want the first time you wear this stuff for people to contact you and say ‘Where’d you get that stuff?’”

If you win bonus things like armor pieces as part of Clan Wars, and you leave the Clan, do you take those spoils of war with you? “Man, that’s been the design question for the last four months,” Linden says with an exasperated laugh. “These are things we think about a lot – is it tied to the Clan? Is it tied to the Clan when I’m winning? Is it consecutive wins? We’ve gone through many different design choices. We’ve tried to keep it pretty simple: You win it, you keep it. If you leave your Clan, you still keep it. If you join a Clan and the Clan’s already earned it, you don’t get it – you have to earn it yourself with the Clan. Now, patches, you do lose. Personal soldier gear belongs to you, but the patches belong to the Clan.”

No One Fights Alone, Even When They Fight Alone
Rewarding both individual achievement and team effort is a key goal for Beachhead – and to that end, it’s important to note that Clan XP and Clan Wars points are different things. “Clan XP, you earn by playing together, but Clan Wars wins count individually,” explains Linden. “If I win a match in a mode relevant to the current Clan War, I get a point for my Clan; if you play later, you get a point for your Clan. It’s an individual contribution to your Clan. We don’t have to be playing together to play Clan Wars, and we didn’t want to penalize people who aren’t online at the same time as their Clan. With every win, I can contribute.”

Obviously, the scope of Clan Wars makes player diversity a valuable commodity. “You want to make sure you have different people in your Clan who are good at different modes,” reasons Linden. “There are some people who always want to play Domination, and that’s fine, but you’re not going to win the Clan War. But if you have a good mix of some people playing Dom and some playing Hardcore Kill Confirmed, some people playing Blitz and some Cranked, that’s when you’re going to increase the odds of actually winning a war.”

Los Angeles is the location for the first Clan War; where to next?

Getting Ready To Rumble
The first Clan War will only last a week; after that, the schedule calls for two-week engagements. The shortened length of the inaugural war gives the developers time to quickly implement feedback before hitting the scheduled stride of two weeks for each rumble. Other details, such as the frequency of each Clan War, are evolving naturally. “We’re still working on the length of time between them; we’re trying to keep it as short as possible,” says Linden. “There might be a little downtime, and we’ve had a lot of different feedback on that — maybe we should wait a couple of days, maybe just 12 hours. So we’ll probably test out a few different things on that and see where we end up.” The current plan is to conclude the first Clan War on December 2, with the next starting sometime the following day.

Emblems matter!

To start things off, this weekend will be what’s being called a “placement weekend” – stats on your Clan and its multiplayer personality will be collected a few days in advance, so matchups can be sorted for Monday’s start. (In other words, this weekend’s a good time to rally up.) You can also expect some Clan Wars communications from HQ, too. “We’ll do an announcement, and probably a push notification in the app,” offers Linden. “We’ll want to remind people to make sure they have at least three people in your Clan if they want to participate, and to make sure they have a badass emblem for their Clan, because that’s what gets stamped on the nodes. When you take over a territory, your emblem gets stamped on the territory in the app. When you go in, you’ll know who is winning the War because their emblem will be all over the place.”

Monday’s Forecast: War
Beachead’s quixotic goal for Call of Duty Clan Wars, then, is every game designer’s holy grail: Accessible simplicity for casual players with an underlying layer of satisfying complexity for dedicated players. “We really want to make sure that people get Clan Wars, that it’s easy to comprehend quickly, but we’re going to add more and more strategy as we go,” Linden promises. “We’re figuring all that out now, and a lot of it will come from feedback – we’re watching this very closely to see, what do people want, where do they want it to go?” Beachhead is eager to get player feedback via the callofduty.com forums as well as Twitter via @BeachheadStudio.

For his part, Linden can’t wait to see Beachhead’s latest creation spring to life, and after so many months of Clan Wars and Call of Duty app development, he can’t help but smile as he confirms the reality: “War begins Monday.”

 

[Stretch616 697]

Sounds good, looking forward to this. Just a shame that they will take normal public match rules in what i'm hoping will be quite a competitive arena. But they say it will evolve from feedback, so just get on with it for the time being.

Nice work Dave, thumbs up!

[ChaosGladiator 811]

Daaaaaaaaaamn that was a long read. Still. I want dis! 

[techno 3,510]

There's something on the app now about clan wars just had a quick look and we are apparently 8th having not started

[TigerBurge 2,375]

Has anyone been able to access the clan wars page? I'vetried all night but kkeep getting a message saying my clan wars map is under mantiance

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I can't access it at work - no wifi and no iPhone!

[burnfitbillyboy 505]

Has anyone been able to access the clan wars page? I'vetried all night but kkeep getting a message saying my clan wars map is under mantiance

Why am I not surprised...

[Baabcat 1,646]

Got the app to show me what is going on

 

so we are up against 10 clans across across a variaety of game modes - each game mode has a leaderboard, and a target for wins. Once you hit the win target you own that mode, until someone takes it off you (I think)

 

so for example on the Domination leaderboard we are showing in 3rd place with 39 wins, and apparently getting 20% extra xp. Leaders are on 84 wins, so a way to go to take over

 

On TDM we are 3rd on 57 wins, miles behind leaders on 166

 

But elsewhere top spot is open for grabs - so no one owns SnR yet, as you need 40 wins to do so, but we are first with 15 wins 

 

I guess the strategy element is to decide whether to co-ordinate and push for topping the leaderboard on one mode, or keep chasing the leaders in domination

 

This is the first thing I have seen in Ghosts which makes me think 'epic'

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Especially where you can make a difference even playing solo

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Got the app to show me what is going on

 

so we are up against 10 clans across across a variaety of game modes - each game mode has a leaderboard, and a target for wins. Once you hit the win target you own that mode, until someone takes it off you (I think)

 

so for example on the Domination leaderboard we are showing in 3rd place with 39 wins, and apparently getting 20% extra xp. Leaders are on 84 wins, so a way to go to take over

 

On TDM we are 3rd on 57 wins, miles behind leaders on 166

 

But elsewhere top spot is open for grabs - so no one owns SnR yet, as you need 40 wins to do so, but we are first with 15 wins 

 

I guess the strategy element is to decide whether to co-ordinate and push for topping the leaderboard on one mode, or keep chasing the leaders in domination

 

This is the first thing I have seen in Ghosts which makes me think 'epic'

Nice. Thanks for posting that.

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Ok so here are the current game modes for clan wars.

What do you all think we need to concentrate on

[kylebees 242]

My suggestion would be KC and/or DOM. So far when I've been partied up, these seem to be the go to modes that we play the most. I'm partial to KC anyway, as that's what I play solo.

[burnfitbillyboy 505]

I'm easy to play whatever mode the PS4 guys and gal are up for.

[Commander_Undies 618]

Big party, we usually play DOM. If there are only a few people we usually play KC or TDM. Usually months down the road people get into other things like S&D.

[burnfitbillyboy 505]

I've played some SnR it's really fun

[Commander_Undies 618]

Yeah it is fun, but i don't see everyone playing it when i get on. That will happen when people are sick of the game. Like every other cod. Lol

[ChaosGladiator 811]

I hate KC with a passion... I've already played a lot of SnR and SnD solo. Dom is usually a proper clusterfuck on some maps. But I'll play that too. KC is however a no go for me.

[Glen11 51]

S&R for me

[Baabcat 1,646]

Just checked the app, looks like SnR is one of the few without a leader yet, might be worth going for

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[burnfitbillyboy 505]

That's good because I know a few of the PS4 guys really like it anyway.