Destiny 2 - FG, What would bring you back to play?

[GazzaGarratt 10,887]

Hear me out for 2 minutes please. I'm really wanting to have a good discussion about it because I honestly feel like there is a game to be played that fits right into our fun happy place without the need to be having to grind or play multiple hours of it and feel 'left behind', etc.

 

I look at the past feelings about CoD over the years, even money wise, but we keep coming back to that, paying the money and this time round its proven (generally here) that the latest one has been a success. I think a significant part of that is many of us here playing it and having others to group together on it - although I see many here too play solo and be fine with that also.

 

So, being there still feels no superior competitor to Destiny 2, and given thats it had a pretty big overhaul of the game again just now, what would it take for you to come back? Or even, start playing for the first time? With Discord integrated with Xbox and PS5, we're even closer to crossplay feeling pretty simple now as the chat was the only major blocker for me (now its just PS4s ffs Sony). I'm just really interested in whether or not we could create that buzz and talk again about the game, given there is still loads of different activities to do and especially at Endgame where most here haven't completed any Dungeons (3 players) or Raids (6 players).

 

So don't hold back, lets chat about it and be open. I feel an FG hole waiting to be filled in 👀 Lets try and be positive and constructive about what we could do together as a community. It could be Guides we could write together, open group up nights, videos, private matches, etc. And the existing ones that still play, give ideas on what you think we could do too!

 

Looking forward to seeing what we all come up with.

 

GGFG!

[Luseth 1,757]

I think for me at the momenI I am a still expansions short of the latest one so I need to pick them up first!! I am not against getting back on to it and time permitting will do at some point, I just limit my multiplayer game time because if I didn't I would be neglecting so many other good games. The problem with limiting mp game time is that often when I jump on to play with FG it is just on whatever game everyone is already playing. 9 times out of 10 that is COD and I don't think I have ever heard anyone suggest mid COD session shall we go and play something else.

 

I find that after 2 hours of COD i'm getting a bit burnt out by it now and tend to stay on just because I'm chatting to FG people and not because I am really into the game.

 

Why does an FG Friday for example have to commit to a single game? Can't it be COD for an hour or 2 and then Destiny for an hour or 2 or Fifa or whatever else. In fact looking at the last few FG Friday's it has been mostly COD for quite some time (even the among us night turned into COD from memory) and whilst it's a good game I imagine there are a few of us playing it just because it is where FG is at and for some chat, I imagine that could be done on any number of games ^_^

[SWAINEY84 68]

Hi all, I’ve been playing since the Destiny 1 beta, this game just really struck a cord with me and the gameplay is just incredible, wasn’t really big on the story at first (well there wasn’t really one lol) but since it’s been improved I’m totally here for it, I love the hive lore especially, I stopped playing around the Curse of Osiris because the game was just not  doing it for me anymore and it’s quite notorious for being bad around that time period but I came back for season of arrivals made a hunter and haven’t looked back, I also made a warlock but forever a Titan main, it’s definitely good to have different characters if you have the time so you can mess around with their kit and see how they play, the new player experience (New Lights) hasn’t been great but now with some changes it’s got to a decent place where it tells you step by step what you can do in the game to level up and try the different activities etc, overall less daunting than before, I’ve manly been a solo player because I just didn’t know how to team up with other players at first as I was the only one out of my friends who played Destiny so when D2 came with clans it was a good opportunity to try and play with other people and here I am, admittedly I haven’t played a whole lot with the clan but the people I have spoken to and played with are really awesome people and I feel comfortable jumping into any activities with them, I want to start raiding more and would like to do it with the clan and the people outside of it who are here regularly so it would be awesome to get some raid nights going again, I’m always down to help anyone with the game or pass on any knowledge I have, I do have 2 sons aged 2 and 7 so I have to balance play around them so evenings are usually when I play, I would love more people to get involved in Destiny because you can really make some memories, the Votd raid is one for me, So if you are thinking about trying Destiny again, please do because this game is special to me and has saved my life from depression and just a really dark place I was in after my mother passed away, wow that deep lol I just wanted to say my peace regarding this game, no it’s not perfect, yes it drives you crazy at times but the memories and friends you make along the way makes it all worth it and getting  a raid exotic before everyone else, sorry this was long but I don’t write stuff like this much, thank you for reading and hopefully see you in game 👍

[TurboR56Mini 943]

It was fun for a few years, and I even got platinum on D2, thanks to FG. My problem is all the content, like raids, are only fun if you can actually contribute. To contribute, you must play a lot to reach the proper level or obtain the meta a.k.a. the unbalanced bullshit weapon of the week/season. I can't be asked to grind the same old shit day in and day out as it really is FOMO. If you don't keep up, you miss it, and I don't need that kind of extra stress in my life. I'm really happy that I've grown to know many of FG from D2 but that nostalgia trap is just that, a trap. I'd rather just chill and build cool shit in Valheim or 7 days. Hell, I've even recently started the Minecraft FG academy thing where I can build to my heart's content. 

[GazzaGarratt 10,887]

Thanks for the views so far @Luseth @SWAINEY84 and @TurboR56Mini.

 

@Luseth Matt, its difficult to explain how it used to be for quite a while. Most nights would be a one game thing through the week, as it was with CoD right now. However it used to be Destiny most of the time and then Overwatch other nights. I think the game is in a far better shape where we can chill and talk and not have to feel like we're miles apart becase the game doesn't have FOMO or any grind. Its more about learning techniques on how to play, build a armour set which even i need help with but its far better bouncing off you guys than just looking at a YouTube video. And FG Fridays, i've slacked tbh. They were never normally the same game like the past 6 weeks. You'll find some games can be on one night whereas others, just from experience I know that its easier just to stick up one game. I'll commit to getting the other Fridays up...although we need all round support to get people's butts online to have a laugh. They are still legendary so won't go away from here.

 

@SWAINEY84, you hit some of the feelings I have. I know this game has actually helped people more in their own life than just playing, like yourself. There's now plenty of options with the Dungeons, Raids and now even the Strikes getting a facelift, that I think just running a few things together would be nice to do as a group.

 

@TurboR56Mini, thanks for being honest. I think luckily, with raids and Dungeons there isn't really much you need before you go in that needs a heavy grind. FOMO is literally down to how we 'used to play' imo. We used to play so much that it felt like we couldn't have a day off! Now, I've missed so much that I don't care about getting everything, I just want to have the experiences together. In fact even back to Destiny 1, the stuff we remember isn't getting everything, its more the memories of epic laughter whilst doing a raid, or even just crucible together. I'm actually with you on wanting to build cool stuff on Valheim, the point should be we play this alongside other stuff, not to make it feel its the only game that exists at FG. Theres so much to talk about in the game that if all of us played it would give us a different perspective to what we had before now we have most of us starting from scratch or for the first time in ages.

[Riff Machine 2,105]

I'm like @SWAINEY84 and I've been playing since the D1 beta as well.  

 

Honestly, the biggest reason I stopped playing was the lazy copy/paste development issues, as well as the season model.  I HATE it.  H-A-T-E IT!  Remember dropping a bright engram every time you hit another level at max?  What was wrong with that if the reward was cosmetic?  Ever since they implemented the season model, it's been monetized more and more each season.  I'm just done with it all, especially with the aforementioned copy/paste design.  The balls to call old weapons, armor, and areas, "new" is just absurd and disrespectful.  The last season was honestly the tipping point for me.  It's gonna take a lot to get me back into it. 

 

Also, Why should I have to wait a week to play a story mission?  The biggest thing is, If I went back and replayed D1 from start to finish, I could replay the entire story from start to finish.  You can't do that now with D2.  I get the size of the game hurt performance, but that's what sequels are for.

 

I feel like the shit started with beyond light should have been the start of Destiny 3.  The foundation is there already.  Improve on it.

 

Thankfully, the biggest saving grace in all of this is I've had the chance to play some really good, and not so good, games as of late that I probably wouldn't have had the chance to thanks to D2 addiction.

[techno 3,476]

Chad has made some great points, this latest expansion came out and because it's just the same format I know I can miss weeks then just catch up. Also with playing since d1 beta I can see how things have gone down hill especially the PvP side. Like cod which gets it's fair share of time PvP is quick you can drop in and out and not necessarily dedicate big time like you might in a raid. Now raids , I used to really enjoy but I feel the game raids, more complex than fun, dungeons and the awful grind has been implemented due to YouTube and is now built for @Baabcatof old 😁. I didn't even realise the new raid was out, watched one video and just like the last raid thought nah.

 

My other problem now speaking personally is I only play with you guys on a weekend now cod is great to do that at the moment destiny just isn't due to needing to learn mechanics etc. Builds however are easier than ever and strand is quite fun.

 

[Baabcat 1,642]

On 3/12/2023 at 5:31 PM, techno said:

Chad has made some great points, this latest expansion came out and because it's just the same format I know I can miss weeks then just catch up. Also with playing since d1 beta I can see how things have gone down hill especially the PvP side. Like cod which gets it's fair share of time PvP is quick you can drop in and out and not necessarily dedicate big time like you might in a raid. Now raids , I used to really enjoy but I feel the game raids, more complex than fun, dungeons and the awful grind has been implemented due to YouTube and is now built for @Baabcatof old 😁. I didn't even realise the new raid was out, watched one video and just like the last raid thought nah.

 

My other problem now speaking personally is I only play with you guys on a weekend now cod is great to do that at the moment destiny just isn't due to needing to learn mechanics etc. Builds however are easier than ever and strand is quite fun.

 

Lol @techno, so harsh but fair 😂. But ultimately the grind finished me off, and it’s a struggle to see what would bring me back. I have been here before though, dipped out for two seasons soon after D2  launch and I think another time. To answer @GazzaGarrattquesrion, I guess what happened to me twice to bring me back was just hearing things had been fixed and the fun was back. But I’ve not really heard anything much about lightfall other than the worlds first race took 2.5 hours which I guess makes it sound like the raid is pretty straightforward. And if it is, that’s a step in the right direction for me. The last two raids haven’t hit the mark for me. Kings Fall I always thought was too long, for my available time anyway.Vow was great in some of the encounters BUT the requirement to learn like 20 symbol names in order to do it was a pain in the ass. That raid could have been great but in the end I barely played it.

 

Destiny was at its best when we had all those clan raids during lockdown, Deep Stone. Crypt, doing all those raids with a cast of about 14 rotating in and out was just gaming at its best and I guess for me it’s the highlight and everything else has been a bit downhill since.  Not a difficult raid, spectacular, and fun. Not sure how we get back to that.

 

I hear the grind has got a bit less, which is a good news, However my only real info I get on D2 is the destiny help account on my Twitter feed which seems to be constantly ‘being aaare of a problem’, so not sure how well the game is holding together anyway. Happy to hear different from anyone still playing it. 
 

Also pretty sad inditement of the gaming industry that the fallback for us all remains CoD. Is that 15 years we been doing that and still nothing takes it s place! 

[GazzaGarratt 10,887]

Thanks for the thoughts @Riff Machine  @techno and @Baabcat. I think we all feel that struggle on these games, especially if you've played them as long as we all have! The good news is that the grind is virtually going away which I think is needed as no one really wants a time sink of one game solidly taking our time away from also experiencing new things. The new player experience and returning one doesn't seem as overwhelming and I've had a look at the Guardian Ranks page myself which looks more inviting then the last update they did to triumphs which I think was a back step so we have things to help us work through the game now.

 

I agree @Baabcat, that Deep Stone Crypt Raid times were the best. Its still my best raid to date, not for the difficulty but for the experience. So many cool sections and its a relatively straightforward raid to learn with all of us. I think whats great is that it will remain in the game and we should look to get more people into it as the rewards were very good weapons and sometimes it will be on the wekly rotation where if you do need 'higher' gear then it will grant that too.

 

I feel like if you see the core people here and chose to start playing one night or two nights a week, there would be enough of us to jump on and help each other. I'm not bothered about getting through content ASAP so the timegating issue people have isn't much of a burden. It works in our favour sometimes as we can say 'thats enough for today on Destiny' and switch to other games that some of us are enjoying. We have a huge pool of people not really even experienced hard lost sectors, dungeons and raids and with people like ourselves @Riff Machine  @techno @Baabcat, I think we'd have a right laugh learning and going through stuff together. I'll keep saying it as it feels pretty factual to me - there is nothing that competes with it still in that multiplayer, co-op, objective experience and i'd love to jump on and do a mission or 2 every so often.

 

Any others that haven't got Destiny like to share what things stop them jumping in to this?