Destiny 2: Beyond Light AND the Future

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Coming September - Beyond Light

 

Beyond Light Gameplay Trailer

 

 

Past and the Future of Destiny

 

 

Post stream Q&A from Dr. Lupo with Luke Smith

 

 

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TL;DR

• Destiny 2 is too large to efficiently update and maintain.
• The size and complexity of the game are also contributing to more bugs and less innovation.
• Instead of building a Destiny 3 and leaving D2 behind, each year, we are going to cycle older, less actively played content out of the live game and into what we’re calling the Destiny Content Vault (DCV).
• This will allow us to add to and support D2 for years, including the three new annual expansions we announced today, starting with Beyond Light this fall.
• The DCV will include all content from Destiny 1 and anything that cycles out from Destiny 2. 
• We will bring back (or “unvault”) activity and destination content from the DCV each year. 
• Unvaulting starts in D2 Year 4, with the Cosmodrome coming back, as well as its three strikes and the return of the Vault of Glass raid.
• The primary D2 content leaving the game and going into the DCV this fall are the destinations – Mars, Io, Titan, Mercury and Leviathan – and their supported activities.
• There will be new ways to earn the Exotics originally linked to content that has entered the DCV.
• When Beyond Light ships, the Director will have the following destinations: 
  • • Europa (new)
    • Cosmodrome (unvaulted) 
    • Moon 
    • Tangled Shore 
    • Dreaming City 
    • European Dead Zone 
    • Nessus
• This approach allows us respond to player feedback more rapidly, enable more innovation, and will keep Destiny 2 and your characters thriving for years to come.
• More details to come soon and throughout the year.
   

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Building a Viable Future in Destiny 2

Earlier today, we laid out a vision for Destiny's future, built right inside of Destiny 2. A future where we maintain your characters, accounts, and continuity with our game systems and build on each of them for years. This fall ushers in a new era in Destiny's journey, launching off a trilogy of expansions where your Guardians will explore the true nature of Light and Dark:

 

 

Put plainly, we are investing in Destiny 2 for years to come. But to continue your Guardian’s journey and deliver on this roadmap, we need to make some changes to our ever-growing world so it can flourish.   

 

THE LIMITS OF GROWTH

Over the past couple months, we’ve mentioned the problems that come with maintaining a game the size of Destiny 2; and we’ve said that it cannot grow infinitely. After three years of non-stop growth, the scope and complexity of Destiny 2 has ballooned to unprecedented scale.

 

As of this writing, Destiny 2 features nine destinations, 40 story missions, 54 adventures, 42 Lost Sectors, 17 strikes, 31 PvP maps, 12 one-off special activities (like Menagerie or Zero Hour), seven raids, six Gambit arenas, three dungeons, many, many quests, patrols, public events, and of course, thousands of associated rewards. All of that, plus hundreds of game systems which layer on top of that content.

 

This unrelenting growth has resulted in a game that requires players to download up to 115GB to play, as well as huge patches tied to frequent updates. And those numbers are rising rapidly, as we’ve been adding approximately 25GB of content each year to Destiny 2 since launch. Those sizes not only stress hard drive capacity but also push the limits of patching capability. It also makes the time to generate a stable update for the game after all content is finalized, tested, and ready to go balloon to literal days instead of hours.

 

Worse still, that 115GB includes a lot of content that isn't relevant anymore – and can't remain relevant – as we evolve the world and introduce new experiences that will take center stage instead. For example: Warmind’s campaign represents only 0.3% of all time played in Season of the Worthy and yet the Warmind Expansion accounts for 5% of our total install size. This dramatic imbalance between player engagement and overall cost to maintain is found in a lot of our legacy content.

 

IMPACT ON THE LIVE GAME

Maintaining that much content in perpetuity slows down our ability to update the game with fresh experiences, reduces our ability to innovate, and delays our reaction to community feedback. The test surface alone is massive, to say nothing about how it impacts our designers, artists, and engineers trying to make cool new stuff every day under the weight of the crushing complexity of our scale.
 

Unfortunately it also means that we sometimes ship content that doesn’t meet the quality bar we’ve set for ourselves and that our players have come to expect. Recent examples are the issues with Felwinter’s Lie quest or when we had to perform our first-ever rollback of player progress due to a bug. 

 

Our ambition is for Destiny 2 to be the best Action MMO in the world and that means being far more agile and nimble than we are today. But the simple fact is that our game's size and complexity prevents us from improving Destiny as fast as we – and you – would like. 

 

THE “DESTINY CONTENT VAULT”

With Destiny 1, we solved the “ever expanding, exponential complexity” problem by making a sequel in Destiny 2. We left behind all of Destiny 1’s content and many of the features players grew to love. We believe now that it was a mistake to create a situation that fractured the community, reset player progress, and set the player experience back in ways that took us a full year to recover from and repair. It’s a mistake we don’t want to repeat by making a Destiny 3. We don't believe a sequel is the right direction for the game and for the past two years we have been investing all of our development effort into new content, gameplay, and new engine features that directly support a single evolving world in Destiny 2.
 

To create a sustainable ecosystem where the world can continue to evolve in exciting ways, and where we can update the game more quickly, we're going to adopt a new content model that we're calling the Destiny Content Vault (DCV). Each year, usually at the expansion boundaries, we will cycle some destination and activity content out of the game (and into the DCV) to make room for new experiences.
 

The first cycle of Destiny 2 content going into the DCV begins this fall, with the appearance of the Pyramid ships in Season of Arrivals and the Beyond Light expansion, which we revealed today. Those events will usher in dramatic changes to the Destiny universe, affecting characters, destinations, and Guardians for years to come.
 

To set a new maintainable foundation for the game this fall and to create room for Beyond Light and the future roadmap, the first Destiny 2 deposit into the DCV will be larger than those to come in the future.

 

CURATING THE VAULT

Content that goes into the Destiny Content Vault may return in the future, altered (if necessary) to fit the new state of the universe. Furthermore, we consider all Destiny 1 and 2 destinations and activities part of the new DCV and we’re going to be pulling from that archive – revisiting some of the most interesting places in Destiny’s history – from now onwards. It’s why the original Destiny 1 Raid – the Vault of Glass – will be returning to Destiny 2 in Year 4.
 

Going forward, our explicit goal will be to try to keep the scope and scale of Destiny 2 at a relatively consistent size in order to increase our agility and to be able to properly support and maintain the game. Over the course of each year, the game’s content scope will grow as we add new destinations and activities in our expansions and Seasons. As we approach the next expansion, another cycle of content will go into the DCV to make way for a new influx of destinations and activities. 

We will always do our best to give early notice of what's being cycled into the DCV, to help you and your friends plan around how you want to complete your collections and build up your account before the new Destiny year starts. The vast majority of content we choose to vault will also be from destinations and activities that have been free for all players for several months prior to their departure. For example: the Curse of Osiris campaign, which has been free since Shadowkeep launched in October 2019, and part of the Destiny 2 experience since December 2017, will go in the DCV later this year. 

 

 

YEAR 4 DESTINY CONTENT VAULT PREVIEW 

Here is an early preview of some of what’s going into the Destiny Content Vault (DCV) and what’s returning in Year 4.

 

RETURNING FROM THE DCV

• On September 22, 2020:
  • • Cosmodrome as a selectable, explorable destination (but not yet at full Destiny 1 parity on 9/22).
      • Note: We’re looking to leverage Cosmodrome’s initial return to expand the new Guardian origin story to the world of Destiny. Veteran players will be able to experience that story as well.
      • Cosmodrome’s Will of Crota strike will also be added to the strikes playlist for all players.
• During Season 13:
  • • Cosmodrome will be fleshed out to roughly Destiny 1 Year 1 parity. 
    • Cosmodrome’s The Devil’s Lair and Fallen S.A.B.E.R. strikes return.
• During Year 4:
  • • Destiny 1’s first raid, Vault of Glass, returns.

HEADING TO THE DCV

• On September 22, 2020: 
  • • Io, Titan, Mercury, Mars, and Leviathan will be cycled out and no longer be accessible. 
      • This includes all PvE activities (including campaigns) on those destinations.

OTHER KEY YEAR 4 DETAILS:  

• There will be three raids playable this fall, including a new one set in the Deep Stone Crypt on Europa as part of the Beyond Light expansion.
• There will be new ways to earn Exotics originally tied to destinations and activity content that have entered the Destiny Content Vault. 
• Available strikes will be based on a pool of possible strikes from active destinations. When a destination goes into the DCV, so too will its strikes.
• The PvP Map playlist will remain a curated ‘best of’ mixture of maps from Destiny 1 and 2.
• Gambit and Gambit Prime are being merged into a single mode, with their original armor visuals available to earn from the Drifter.

 

To be clear, the DCV does not apply to any weapons and armor in a player's inventory or vault. The DCV is about activities and destinations. We know you will have a lot of questions about how this will work. We will share more updates about our content plans throughout the summer. This includes a detailed overview of everything changing via patch notes, extensive DPS articles that will help break down what’s changing and when, as well as lots of opportunities for you to ask us questions along the way.

A NEW BEGINNING

This fall, we will begin delivering on the future of Destiny by making way for new adventures, locales, and stories dreamed up by our creative team, and forging the truly evolving world that it was always meant to be. These changes allow us the freedom to finally weave an overall experience for the Destiny universe that can truly live, starting with Beyond Light. We can now fit puzzle pieces we haven’t been able to pick up since the beginning of the original Destiny – including the true nature of the Darkness and Light and how such power will change you as a Guardian. We can now bring some of the greatest experiences in Destiny to the forefront of the current game alongside new ones to come.
 

The past six years, we’ve seen the Destiny universe grow and our community along with it. We want our quality of service to grow in kind, to be able to react to community feedback quicker, to innovate more often, and to continue to tell new stories with your characters. We’re excited to continue that journey with you.
 

– Destiny 2 Dev Team

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Keeping this thread to just the upcoming September onwards stuff.

 

Well, it was a Bungie reveal and that means they are always a great watch.

 

A lot was covered and it pretty much sealed that there will be no sequel as they intend to evolve this game into the one evolving world. No drop of the 2 just yet but that's kind of irrelevant.

 

A brand new subclass called Status will arrive alongside Solar, Void and Arc. It looks pretty cool considering its linked to wielding darkness for the first time.

 

There's loads more to cover but I'll say that the one thing to get your head around with Destiny is that they are building a huge game that technically isnt allowed to get too big. Whats great about the Destiny Content Vault is that we technically will have content in and out of the game over years to come rather than either lose it completely (like all of D1).

 

I think it's a solid middle ground because you have the half the people wanting the old stuff back but updated, and half the people want to play new content.

 

Having the choice in the next year to play a brand new raid and also play a refreshed updated Vault of Glass raid (hell yes!) is a great balance. The vault will have multiple things in it, from D1 and D2.

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The game will also be 4k at 60FPS on next gen AND we dont have to buy anything we have already bought on current gen consoles. Absolute win that is.

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Just rewatching some stuff.

 

Status is actually a new Damage type not just a whole new subclass. So that means new weapons will also get this damage type as well as new supers.

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I've updated the OP to include not just the fall DLC but whats to come afterwards as I think you end up thinking about it all when you watch some of the stuff. I'd urge you to watch them and i'll also try and find the discussion piece with Luke Smith & Mark Noseworthy when i can because that added some context.

 

Its also now clear that if we were worried about playing with friends on console we won't have to because once PS5 comes you can play with your friends in the same game that are still on PS4. Thats great to know ahead of the console release because a new console can fracture a community if not all players make the move to the next gen at the same time.

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Under the radar and not game detail specifically, however just as important is that Joe Blackburn, the raid lead designer for the game for many years that left 2 years ago, has come back to Bungie. I think its a pretty big deal when we know that raids are important to people and he made Last Wish which is up there with the best that he also helped build in Destiny 1 - soon to be in the one evolving game. I can't wait to play Vault of Glass again!

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Some more detail on the summary above:

 

• Each Annual Expansion will add a never seen before planet rather than enhancing/improving an existing planet like they did with Shadowkeep (Moon)
• Destiny Content Vault (DCV) will contain nearly all of Destiny 1 content and all the Destiny 2 content they have selected to rotate out. This allows them to take out stuff not really being touched or virtually played, enhance and improve it, and then return it back into the game when they can. This means we essentially have chances to play re-imagined content alongside brand new content.
• Crossplay is a target for them in the next year. Consoles current and next gen friend can play with each other
• Status will be an entirely new subclass that has a greater way to personally customise your subclass - no diamonds like we currently. Existing ones will initially stay the same but expect if the new one gets good feeedback the others will updated in the future to follow suit.

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Loving the return to destiny 1 content. They've recognised what we all experienced with the shift to destiny 2. The fracture in the community. We never really recovered from the jump from D1 to D2. We never really found the next go to game either. Perhaps it's time we just got back involved with destiny and have it a chance?

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