GazzaGarratt 11,051 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Oct. 30 Update: MP Balancing Pass, Blackout & Zombies Updates, Gun Game + More This is a huge update so enjoy the read. We’ve made the following updates to the game today on consoles (PC update to follow shortly with additional PC-specific changes and improvements): Multiplayer Playlist Updates Featured Playlists “Gun Game” playlist added to Featured Playlist (no parties allowed). “Mercenary Deathmatch Moshpit” playlist added to the Featured Category (TDM and Kill Confirmed, no parties allowed). “Chaos Domination” playlist to Featured Category (3-second captures, 150-point rounds, 6v6). Hardcore TDM / Hardcore Kill Confirmed Player count increased to 6v6. 2 Specialist limit per team. Assault Rifles We’re dialing back some previous buffs to Assault Rifles to help close the gap in effectiveness between ARs and SMGs, allowing SMGs to be more effective at firing on the move. Slight reduction to ADS move speed for all Assault Rifles. Slight reduction to ADS-in transition speed for all Assault Rifles. ICR-7 Reduced headshot damage. Slight reduction to reload speed. VAPR-XKG Reduced close-range headshot damage. Damage now falls off sooner. High Caliber: Reduced headshot multiplier, eliminating the possibility of a 3-hit kill. Submachine Guns Mobility is the primary strength of SMGs, speeding across the map to engage or disengage quickly. Some of the close-range SMGs were performing quite well, while others struggled to compete with the rest of the category. This week’s balancing pass levels the playing field between SMGs. MX9 Extended all damage ranges. High Caliber: Reduced headshot multiplier, eliminating the possibility of a 4-hit kill. Cordite Extended all damage ranges. Belt-Feed Operator Mod: Increased overheat rate. GKS Quad Shot Operator Mod: Slight time increase in between bursts. Saug 9mm Dual Wield Operator Mod: Reduced hip-fire accuracy. Tactical Rifles We’ve buffed the ABR to be more competitive with the other Tactical Rifles, while stepping down its Operator Mod to keep it from becoming a crutch Attachment. The Swordfish received some Attachment adjustments, as well. ABR 223 Extended maximum damage range. Repeater Operator Mod: Now takes longer to accelerate fire rate. Stock: Slight reduction in movement speed bonus. Laser Sight & Laser Sight II: Improved hip-fire accuracy. Swordfish High Caliber: Reduced headshot multiplier, eliminating the possibility of a 3-hit kill. Penta Burst Operator Mod: Reduced extra granted clip-size. Sniper Rifles The other Sniper Rifles needed help to fight King Paladin. We’re giving these rifles reduced idle sway and upping their damage to help finish off wounded targets more consistently. Removed turn sway when aiming down sights on all Sniper Rifles to better ensure the weapon reticle stays centered when turning. Paladin HB50 High Caliber II: Hitting the lower torso on a full Tak-5-boosted enemy will no longer be a 1-hit kill. FMJ II: Improved damage against Scorestreaks. Stabilizer II: Player can now hold breath sooner after the previous hold breath. Outlaw Improved base damage from 110 to 130. Reduced idle sway. Increased base movement speed. Stock: Slight increase in ADS movement speed bonus. SDM Increased clip size from 10 to 12. Reduced idle sway. Koshka Improved Damage from 120 to 140. Stock: Slight increase in ADS movement speed bonus. Light Machine Guns Some in the community have discovered that the Titan and VKM 750 are extremely effective weapons! We’re toning them down before everyone jumps on the bandwagon. While they’ll still be scary to face off against, players will now have a more reasonable chance to defend themselves against these LMGs. Titan Reduced headshot damage. Reduced hip-fire accuracy. Stock: Reduced ADS movement speed bonus. VKM 750 Reduced movement speed while firing. Reduced damage slightly. Fat Barrel Operator Mod: Reduced bullet tracer size. Hades Cross Bar Operator Mod: Reduced movement speed and accuracy. Steady Grip: Improved recoil mitigation. Pistols Slight reduction to ADS-in transition speed for all Pistols. RK 7 Garrison Slight increase to the time between bursts. Slight reduction to reload speed. Shotguns This weapon class is close to where we want it, with only a couple of specific Attachments performing better than intended. Shotguns in Black Ops 4 play a different role than in past Call of Duty titles, and those who have practiced cat-and-mouse gameplay can be highly effective with them. MOG 12 Choked Barrel: 1-hit-kill range reduced. Dragon’s Breath Operator Mod: Resolved an issue where the Dragon’s Breath occasionally triggered incorrect visual and sound FX on targets. SG12 Strobe Light Operator Mod: Addressed an issue with the Strobe Light where it would remain on after death. Live update coming soon to reduce the range at which the Strobe Light interferes with enemy aim. Attachments (All Weapons) Grip II Reduced ADS flinch mitigation. Suppressor Reduced damage falloff ranges. Holographic Sight Optic Reduced ADS recoil. Dual Zoom Optic Reduced ADS recoil. Recon Optic Reduced ADS recoil. ELO Optic Slightly increased ADS recoil. Specialists Ajax We’re providing more strategic options to counteract Ballistic Shield, and to help ensure the Shield isn’t activated too often in the same game. Explosives now apply partial damage to the front of a deployed Ballistic Shield user. Ballistic Shield now takes longer to earn. Nomad We want to encourage Nomad to work more closely with his K9-Unit to maximize effectiveness. Reduced K9-Unit health by 10%. Crash While we’re happy that our Support Specialist is so popular, he was a bit too effective as a Scorestreak farmer. Reduced “Teammate Used Pack” score event from +50 to +25. Firebreak Purifier has been restored to its former glory. Increased Purifier flame damage to be a guaranteed eventual kill against a player who doesn’t have Tactical Mask equipped. Recon Intelligence wins wars, and Recon is living proof. We have intelligence that Recon’s intelligence is too good, so we’re re-classifying some of his sources. Reduced Sensor Dart duration. Resolved an issue where voiceover would incorrectly state that the player’s Sensor Dart was destroyed. Torque Many in the community have embraced Torque with inventive playstyles, though he’s still struggling on a broader scale. We bolstered the effectiveness of his Barricade to ensure he stays relevant in team compositions. Increased earn rate for Barricade. Increased hit points for Barricade. Addressed an issue that prevented TAACOM from telling the player that their Barricade was taking damage. Prophet Prophet’s Tempest needed an upgrade to stand a chance of competing with the rest of the Specialists. Greatly increased Tempest projectile speed. Slightly increased Tempest chain distance. Resolved an issue where being hit by an explosive charge would disable the Tempest charge, preventing further arcing. Spawns Team Deathmatch Tuned spawn logic around how enemies impact where the game chooses to respawn the player. Spawn adjustments made for Slums, Summit, Militia, and Firing Range. Domination Spawn adjustments made for Icebreaker, Contraband, Hacienda, Payload, Gridlock, Slums, Summit, Militia, Jungle, and Firing Range. Hardpoint Tuned spawn logic tuning around how the active Hardpoint affects nearby spawns. This should provide more predictable spawns when battling over an active Hardpoint. Additional global spawn adjustments to improve the ability for a player to anchor a location for their team’s respawns relative to an active Hardpoint. Spawn adjustments made for Frequency and Seaside. Free For All Spawn adjustments made for Slums, Summit, Militia, and Firing Range. Control Spawn adjustments made for Slums, Summit, Militia, and Firing Range. Gear Stim Shot Increased time to fully heal the player. Armor Resolved an issue where Armor protected from more damage than intended when hitting areas of the body that have damage multipliers, such as the head or upper chest. This primarily affects weapons with chest modifiers, such as Sniper Rifles or weapons with High Caliber II. Acoustic Sensor Reduced the range at which sprinting enemies are detected. Perks Dead Silence Reduced player movement volume and distance that players equipped with Dead Silence can be heard by enemies. The intention for Dead Silence is not to be completely silent, but also not to allow enemies to hear your movement from longer distances. Engineer Extraction helicopter in Heist will no longer be highlighted by the Engineer Perk. Scorestreaks Mantis Resolved an issue where the Mantis could be destroyed by touching the Out-Of-Bounds area of a map. Dart Increased explosion radius and damage. Players can now use a second Dart when earning two Dart Scorestreaks. Strike Team Prevented Strike Team kills from contributing towards owner's kills without dying medals. Gameplay Reduced ranges required for Longshot Medals for Assault Rifles, Tactical Rifles, Submachine guns, and Light Machine Guns. Resolved an issue where the “Hard Stop” Challenge could reset before reaching 300. Resolved an issue where the “Marksman Mastery” Challenge would not give 10,000 XP upon completion. Resolved an issue where destroying friendly Scorestreaks would award score. Players can no longer crouch or go prone while performing a Gesture. Game Modes Increased XP earn rate in Heist. Increased amount of XP earned per kill in Free For All. Resolved an issue where Hardcore wins were not counted toward Challenges. Resolved an issue in Free For All where Recon players could receive Vision Pulse assist score. Silent Plant option in Custom Games should now make planting and defusing bombs completely silent. Maps Icebreaker Adjusted cover pieces to discourage players from spawn-camping. Added cover to the lower respawn side. Slums Adjusted cover pieces to discourage players from spawn-camping. Miscellaneous Several map fixes to address exploits that allowed players to leave the intended play space. Theater Theater files recorded before this update will no longer be viewable due to significant architectural changes to the system. As noted in our previous major update, we will make every effort to keep instances of incompatibility to a minimum. Added a watermark in the HUD that only displays when in Theater mode. Why this change? We often see players posting videos recorded from Theater as a demonstration of “poor hit detection” or other issues that appear to be incorrect. While Theater represents what happened in a match in a general sense, it does not reflect with 100% accuracy all of the details as they were experienced live. Live recorded gameplay footage is the more accurate method for reporting behavior in the game that is not performing as expected. With this change, we can better identify Theater clips when reviewing community videos and therefore filter them out for the more accurate live recorded clips. Audio Resolved issues that caused footsteps to sound muffled when they shouldn’t be. Blackout Playlists 100-Player Solos added to Featured playlist. Maximum player count set to 88 for Duos and Quads. Audio Tweaked settings to ensure friendly teammates’ footsteps are now quieter than enemy footsteps. Adjusted footsteps for all Armor types in first-person and third-person to give better directionality and distance information. Resolved an issue that occasionally caused footsteps to be silent. Resolved issues that caused footsteps to become muffled when they shouldn’t be. Armor Armor now allows more damage to pass through to areas of the body that have damage multipliers, such as the head or upper chest. For example, headshots now do more damage against Level 3 Armor. Character Missions Unlocked remaining Specialist Character Missions (Battery, Firebreak, Nomad, Prophet, Ruin, Seraph) “Item Found” Notifications To tag an item for your teammate, approach the Item and select the bottom center command on your Command Wheel. This will display the Item in text on your team’s HUD and highlight the item in the world for your team. Increased the brightness of Items when a teammate tags them as “Item Found” via the Command Wheel. Increased duration that Items tagged using “Item Found” are displayed in the world to your team. Calling Cards and Challenges Resolved an issue where completing Dark Ops Challenges would not unlock their associated Calling Card. Resolved an issue where certain Challenges rewarded the same Calling Card. UI Resolved an issue where the Altimeter could disappear during Infiltration. Resolved an issue where incorrect Inventory items could be shown while spectating another player. Miscellaneous Resolved an issue that allowed players to shoot through certain rocks. Improved visual quality of the grass. Resolved an issue where the After Action Report would show double damage when in Squads. Resolved an issue where Echelon Ranking wasn’t showing properly at Max Rank. Zombies Gameplay Increased XP earn rate for Hardcore and Realistic difficulties. Blood of the Dead Addressed an issue where the New Industries portal ghost remained visible from the start of the step. Fixed lever animation on the Power House ghoul in the Main Easter Egg Quest. IX Resolved an issue where players could be tossed outside the intended play space of the Boss Battle Arena. Resolved an issue where earning Mule Kick could take away all player weapons and money. Miscellaneous Resolved an issue preventing players from applying their Clan Tag or using the Kill Counter after weapon Prestige. Resolved an issue where the SG12 lost all attachments when Pack-A-Punched. Fixed multiple exploit spots in the maps. Fixed several stability issues associated with entering and exiting the Alchemy Lab at specific times. Earning additional Perks will now be displayed on the player’s HUD. Resolved issues with Prestige Master not functioning correctly. Resolved several issues with Custom Mutation options not working correctly. Resolved an issue where the wrong Camo could be displayed on a weapon. Resolved an issue where players were not getting revived when the DG-5 Power Plant ability had been enabled. Resolved several instances of Anywhere But Here not working when activated on a moving platform, like the gondola in Blood of the Dead. Fixed an exploit where players could keep their Special Weapon out indefinitely. General Social Players can now invite players who are online, but not in the game, to their in-game party. Miscellaneous Resolved an issue where particular weapon Camos would overlap weapon Optics. Resolved multiple issues with Paintjobs not showing up in-game. Resolved an issue where your Gun Rack would show up when inspecting other players. Resolved an issue where Emblems for other players would appear in lower resolution than expected in the Social menu. General stability fixes and performance improvements across Multiplayer, Blackout, and Zombies. J4MES OX4D and Dan94 2 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaGarratt 11,051 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 Too much for even me to read but nice to initially see Gun Game added. Always good fun for us to have in private matches on previous CoDs. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan94 913 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Chaos Domination sounds either very interesting and refreshing or absolutely frustrating as heck lol GazzaGarratt 1 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBiron 1,453 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Lolz that say "balance" and then go and buff snipers; weapons that are a OHK at any distance. Via the FG App J4MES OX4D and GazzaGarratt 2 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 10,035 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 New settings update - lots of wallets now opening. General Black Ops Pass owners now receive a one-time bonus of 1,000 COD Points and 300 Nebulium Plasma. COD Points can now be used to advance Black Market Tiers, access Special Orders in the Black Market, and acquire Nebulium Plasma in Zombies on PS4 (other platforms to follow next week). Special Orders now available in Black Market on PS4 (other platforms to follow next week). Multiplayer Create-a-Class Resolved an error associated with equipping a Signature Weapon, equipping an attachment, then re-equipping the same Signature Weapon. Resolved an error associated with removing a Signature Weapon with any attachment equipped. Miscellaneous Full parties of 6 can now play in Chaos Domination. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBiron 1,453 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Now we know why Black Market progress is so slow. They went us to spend money to skip it. They can get fucked. Via the FG App Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan94 913 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Yeah, they've fucked it. Either I'm having a shit night along with my mate, or the update is fucked. The only gun you can use now to do well seems to be the ICRSent from my Samsung S9+ using Tapatalk Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaGarratt 11,051 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Dan94 said: Yeah, they've fucked it. Either I'm having a shit night along with my mate, or the update is fucked. The only gun you can use now to do well seems to be the ICR Sent from my Samsung S9+ using Tapatalk Hang on, didn't the ICR get nerfed a little? Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan94 913 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Hang on, didn't the ICR get nerfed a little?Yeah lol and I'm doing better with it [emoji23] probably because other guns are worse now Sent from my Samsung S9+ using Tapatalk GazzaGarratt 1 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan94 913 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Has anyone played much since the update? Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBR-Kiwi 286 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 SMGs seem even worse for me. People walk through an entire clip and can heal up to full health before destroying me. If if anybody has a good SMG loadout, post it up because I’m about ready to give up on the class Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan94 913 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, JBR-Kiwi said: SMGs seem even worse for me. People walk through an entire clip and can heal up to full health before destroying me. If if anybody has a good SMG loadout, post it up because I’m about ready to give up on the class Saug Quickdraw Stock Long Barrel Scavenger Lightweight/Gung Ho Ghost That's the only SMG gun/class I use. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBR-Kiwi 286 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, Dan94 said: Saug Quickdraw Stock Long Barrel Scavenger Lightweight/Gung Ho Ghost That's the only SMG gun/class I use. Long barrel?? I didn’t the saug had that?? Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan94 913 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, JBR-Kiwi said: Long barrel?? I didn’t the saug had that?? I think so, not 100% sure now you've said that though Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBR-Kiwi 286 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Dan94 said: I think so, not 100% sure now you've said that though No long barrel 😭 I’ve been really struggling recently and it doesn’t help that Virgin keeps giving me a 200kb upload.... Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan94 913 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 No long barrel [emoji24] I’ve been really struggling recently and it doesn’t help that Virgin keeps giving me a 200kb upload....Hmm that's strange, I'll check tonight and see what I'm using! [emoji23] Sent from my Samsung S9+ using Tapatalk Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan94 913 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Grip not long barrel my bad! Sent from my Samsung S9+ using Tapatalk GazzaGarratt 1 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBR-Kiwi 286 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I don’t understand how the game registers someone hitting me in the ankle as a headshot yet an enemies head can pretty much fill my screen and I will get jack shit Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBR-Kiwi 286 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Finally got the use of the gunship. HOLY FUCK!! Welcome back to MW2!! 😱😄😱😄😱😄 GazzaGarratt, Dan94 and J4MES OX4D 2 1 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBiron 1,453 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 On 11/2/2018 at 11:51 AM, JBR-Kiwi said: SMGs seem even worse for me. People walk through an entire clip and can heal up to full health before destroying me. If if anybody has a good SMG loadout, post it up because I’m about ready to give up on the class SMGs are absolutely fucking useless in this game. The GKS is OKish but the rest are shit. Even in HC they're pretty poor. Treyarch really need to sort them out. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaGarratt 11,051 Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 What's the reasoning for using SMGs? Just objectives or you guys enjoy using them? I've never really enjoyed the SMG style of play as they are supposed to win at close hut not too close ranges. Either AR or above unless in your face which is Shotgun county. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBR-Kiwi 286 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 hours ago, GazzaGarratt said: What's the reasoning for using SMGs? Just objectives or you guys enjoy using them? I've never really enjoyed the SMG style of play as they are supposed to win at close hut not too close ranges. Either AR or above unless in your face which is Shotgun county. I think it all stems from the MW2 glory days of running and gunning with an SMG (UMP was my baby). I feel so much happier with the SMG in the enemies faces firing a thousand bullets a second. But now with the increased health and general shittiness it’s difficult to do that. Dan94 1 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBR-Kiwi 286 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 hours ago, GazzaGarratt said: What's the reasoning for using SMGs? Just objectives or you guys enjoy using them? I've never really enjoyed the SMG style of play as they are supposed to win at close hut not too close ranges. Either AR or above unless in your face which is Shotgun county. I think it all stems from the MW2 glory days of running and gunning with an SMG (UMP was my baby). I feel so much happier with the SMG in the enemies faces firing a thousand bullets a second. But now with the increased health and general shittiness it’s difficult to do that. Dan94 1 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan94 913 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Even since then there's been powerful SMG's. MP7 & PP90 for example was fantastic. PDW, MSMC too. The Saug is the only viable one for me and that's only really on Summit and sometimes Slums Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 10,035 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 6 hours ago, GazzaGarratt said: What's the reasoning for using SMGs? Just objectives or you guys enjoy using them? I've never really enjoyed the SMG style of play as they are supposed to win at close hut not too close ranges. Either AR or above unless in your face which is Shotgun county. BO4 has a couple of OP SMG's with minimal recoil that you unlock early - they can be pretty useful on the smaller maps in the right hands plus they can bridge the gap between unlocking assault rifles as there is some distances between levels before you start unlocking the tasty AR's. I'm not a fan of SMG's but they've become prominent in a lot of COD's because of the dwindling map sizes and how powerful the developers make them as opposed to some harder to handle assault rifles. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/6476-black-ops-4-game-update-october-30th/#findComment-113614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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