MrBiron

I'm also not convinced things like the shit spawn system or the poor netcode will be fixed for launch. So I'll wait to see what happens with those first before getting the game.

I will be eventually but not sure exactly when. Definitely not day one because I ain't giving Activision any cash because of then being greedy fuckers.

The vast majority of the issues in the beta will still be there in the full game. I'd bet actual real world money on that. The game we played will have been basically the finished product as the game is out in a month.

I don't want to hate it. I'm actually a massive COD fan. But the series has just been going down the shitter. And I was hoping this game would be a return to form. Via the FG App

Summary Fully Dedicated Servers, no sign of Listen Servers (COD has never used P2P) VOIP (Game Chat) continues to expose player IPs In-game latency widget is inaccurate No HUD indicators for network performance issues Update (Tick) Rates: Small/Medium Team Modes: ~64Hz Client / ~62Hz Server Large Team Modes: ~70Hz Client / ~24Hz Server Average Delays - Small/Medium Team Modes: Damage: ~99ms Gunfire: ~106ms Movement: ~110ms Overall bad, on-par with Black Ops 4's Blackout mode Average Delays - Large Team Modes: Damage: ~136ms Gunfire: ~152ms Movement: ~156ms Overall bad, worse than Black Ops 4's Blackout mode verage network delay for 6v6 and 10v10 are worse than Black Ops 4, Fortnite, PUBG, Battlefield V, Overwatch, and CSGO. Ground War (32v32) average network delay is also worse than Blackout. 62hz tick rates on Domination (both 6v6 and 10v10) and 21hz tick rate servers for Ground War. Devs still don't include some kind of icon like Battlefield, Rocket League, or IIRC Overwatch to let you know if there's server/connection issues. Like players on /r/ModernWarfare pointed out, the ping numbers shown on PC were in fact broken. All the games he played on were true dedicated servers. Voice chat was VOIP in the background though, which allowed you to see the IP addresses of everyone in the game (even if you disabled the voice chat). Connections favored the shooter. So shooting felt good, but often times the person being shot at would experience those instances where they felt like they would die instantaneously or after they had already gotten behind cover. Taken from here https://www.reddit.com/r/modernwarfare/comments/d9faiu/cod_modern_warfare_beta_netcode_worse_than_black/ This explains why I had such a horrible experience with this game.

I'm going to wait for a week and get a second hand copy. So they'll get fuck all money from me.

First we had the news that the Spec Ops Survival mode is exclusive to PS4 for A WHOLE FUCKING YEAR. And now there is news that Supply Drops will have weapons in them and they've actually ditched a Scrap scheme similar to what was in MW Remastered https://www.reddit.com/r/modernwarfare/comments/d8vnxa/thegamingrevolution_supply_drops_will_have/ So now people are really fucking pissed off with Activision. They seem to have killed any hype that people had about this game.

I think his view on the spawns is correct: The game chooses a spawn point for you which is then fixed. You then go into that overhead view of the map and then zoom into your spawn point. If an enemy has moved near your spawn point in that time then you will still spawn there as the game won't pick another spot.

When I go on Reddit it's funny when somebody moans about this game and somebody say "it's just a beta! They'll fix X issue for launch!". No they fucking won't! This game has been getting made for 3 years. They have testers who play this game every day. So shit like broken spawns will still be broken at launch.

I like a fast paced COD. And I was referring to him saying it feels better than the first week. The second week felt exactly the same to me. Nothing has changed. My issue with this game are the awful spawns and the constant UAV spam. Maybe the UAV spam won't be an issue once Ghost is unlocked.

I'd love to know which game you're playing as that's the complete opposite to how it was for me.

BO3 was the last really good COD. Everything since then has been shit.

I'll get the full game. But I'll buy on disc so if it's shit I can play the campaign and sell it afterwards. But there is no chance I'll download the beta again.

It'll be this bad at launch. I would put money on it still being a massive dog turd at launch.

I've deleted it. I have no interest in playing it again.

I tried this fucking awful game again last night. And it was just as dreadful as it was the first weekend. The maps are just shit. Complete mazes with far too many places for people to camp. The one called Gun Runner is decent. Hackney Turd is honestly one of the worst COD maps I've ever played one. I detested it from the first time I played it on it and still detest it now. The spawn system! Aaaargh! It's like it's been purposely designed so you spawn next to enemy players. One match I got killed by somebody, spawn and got killed by them again and in the kill cam it actually showed me spawning right in front of them! On that fucking cave map I got killed and then spawned and died 4 times in a row in THE SAME FUCKING SPOT. What annoys me the most is that there are constant UAVs in the air with no proper counter to them. Ghost isn't unlocked until level 13. Sure you can use a launcher on them but when you only have 2 rockets and they go up every 20 seconds then you're on to a loss straight away. So I've deleted the beta and won't touch this piece of shit again.

I also forgot to mention the spawn system. It's fucking awful! You can quite literally spawn in front of somebody. It's just ridiculous. Via the FG App

What I've played hasn't been fun. Maps have too many hidey spots for people to camp in. And too many head glitch spots. Players are out of sync. You can see somebody for a split second, die, and on their screen they've seen you for a few seconds and emptied a load of bullets into you. Having the UAV unlocked first but not having Ghost unlocked makes it impossible to flank as the other team knows where you are at all times as there is quite literally a UAV up all the time. I actually think the UAV spam is what the main issue is. People just wait for you to walk around a corner as they know where you are. Via the FG App

I have it on my Xbone. Gamertag is TheBironicMan if anybody wants to add me. I'm not sure who actually has an Xbox on here.

BF4 was the last really excellent BF game. BO3 was the last good COD game. I thought it was excellent. Siege is still brilliant but none of you fuckers play it.

I played a couple of games. Thought it was pretty decent. No lag or hit detection issues. Can't wait to play the beta now.

With many of the original Infinity Ward developers back at the studio working on the 2019 title, the philosophy of the past is coming back in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare. Infinity Ward’s Jeffery Smith: "A lot of map design recently in CoD has been more symmetrical, and make the maps feel more like arena-based shooters. But going to Modern Warfare, we wanted to keep that realism, and whenever you start doing symmetrical layouts, it really starts throwing people’s brains off. Humans can pick up patterns really easily, and so to make this space feel real, you really have to hide those three lanes."

The maps are apparently mostly a decent size and no longer boring 3 lane design. Which I'm glad about as the maps in BO4 got very stale very quick.

What about Telegram? Via the FG App

Everybody will just be running UAV's. So a stealth perk will become essential.