Stretch616 697 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 So I wondered if anyone had seen any further information on this. To the best of my understanding at the moment the PS4 will only have HDMI output facility, but that will be copyright protected to the same degree that it currently is on the PS3. Therefore making game capturing impossible. Now I know that they have the share function attatched the the controller which will give you some form of game uploading, but if the above is correct then any PS4 users can kiss goodbye to any commentary, montage or anything else that would require a PVR & editing program software. I didn't think that Sony would've done this but they've not said anything to the contrary and XBOX has been quite the opposite in saying that it will be supported. So i'm kinda concerned that their silence is saying all it needs to. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
tronic44 3,642 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I really hope they don't take this away from us, even though i haven't really done anything in a while, i've got so many games that i wanted to create videos out of! Come on Sony! Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsinOwl 644 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Of course you can use an HD PVR, you'll just need and HDMI to Component adapter or get a newer PVR with an HDMI input. Diddums 1 If you decide to put your dick in crazy, be ready to change your phone number and relocate. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tronic44 3,642 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I was thinking of getting the elgato, i do have the old hauppuage but the quality doesn't look anywhere near as good as pvr's with HDMI inputs Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsinOwl 644 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Does it really matter once youtube is done crushing it? Do people actually stream YT in 1080p? If you decide to put your dick in crazy, be ready to change your phone number and relocate. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddums 4,346 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Record, yes. Stream, no. Do you guys really think that Sony will be able to take away recording? An adapter will do the trick, get back to recording, and voila. If the PS4 comes with a built in PVR it'll be crap, mark my words. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch616 697 Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 Nooby question. But how would the adaptor get round the copyright issue? Surely the signal coming out of the HDMI port is encoded no matter what you convert the eventual output to? Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddums 4,346 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 HDMI is HDMI. If Sony started putting protection on that then millions of tellies worldwide wouldn't be able to display anything. The signal will be the same no matter what, there's no changing that. Shove a PVR inbetween and voila. Only problem might be once stuff starts getting onto the 'tube. Youtube might start taking clips off once Sony starts having a little moan, but we're in need of a replacement for Youtube anyways, so this would be the perfect opportunity for someone to start something up. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsinOwl 644 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 http://www.hdfury.com/products/hdfuryiii-specs/ I've just been reading up on this Dave, and HDMI is not all the same. It often comes with built in HDCP copy protection which prevents unapproved devices (i.e., recording devices) from deciphering the encrypted signal. If you decide to put your dick in crazy, be ready to change your phone number and relocate. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsinOwl 644 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Add: HDMI to component adapters only work for unprotected HDMI signals. //I'm not an expert, just been reading about it the past 20 minutes or so. If you decide to put your dick in crazy, be ready to change your phone number and relocate. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tronic44 3,642 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Well I don't like the sound of that! We'll be able to record somehow, it'll alllllll be good. I have faith in Sony, unless it's Sony headphones then they can GTFO! Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch616 697 Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 That's the reason I ask. Because when I tried watching a DVD when through my PVR it wouldn't work beacause of the encryption Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddums 4,346 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 It'll never work, trust me. Gamers won't let that shit fly, there are millions of us, and if 1% of those get pissed off enough to actually do something, you can expect all sorts of hacking shit to be all ove rthe internet in no time. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsinOwl 644 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 The link I posted to the HDFury 3 will decode the HDMI signal and let you output it to whatever you want. problem sorted If you decide to put your dick in crazy, be ready to change your phone number and relocate. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsinOwl 644 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 $250 though, kinda steep. If you decide to put your dick in crazy, be ready to change your phone number and relocate. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tronic44 3,642 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Fuck me! Dang that's a lot! Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch616 697 Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 Yeah $250 is more than I paid for my PVR. Not sure I want to sink much more money into making crappy videos! Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch616 697 Posted September 12, 2013 Author Share Posted September 12, 2013 Just a bit more info on the situation Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-3993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_C_Scipio 395 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 It's confirmed that HDMI capture on PS4 is possible http://ign.com/articles/2013/09/19/tgs-ps4-to-support-video-capture-via-hdmi Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/173-ps4-pvr-possible/#findComment-5754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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