JsinOwl 644 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Here's a decent write-up: Source Since Destiny is not your typical FPS, it combines a bit of Borderlands looting and Diablo 3 progression and is nothing like Halo, I'm sure some of you might find it a bit confusing. So, i am going to break down what the "End Game" at level 20 is about, and hope this helps you plan ahead and get enjoyment out of what is inevitably a grind-fest. Yes, you are going to have to grind. Anyone familiar with Diablo 3 or MMOs in general are familiar with this concept. It will become tedious and annoying, but when you get your first piece of shiny Purple, it will all be worth it. If grinding is not your thing, then there is plenty of exploring to do i suppose. First, figure out what you want to focus on AT FIRST: PvE or PvP. This is not a major issue in the bigger picture, you can obviously do both, however, to get your FIRST piece of Purple, it will help you tremendously to pick one or the either, and stick with that for a bit. Why is this? Because there are three different vendors you can get gear from: Your Class Vendor/Vanguard Armory, The Crucible Vendor, or any of the Faction Vendors. Your Class Vendor/Vanguard Armory requires Vanguard Marks, and the rest require Crucible Marks. So, if you want to focus on PvE, then just stick with your Class Vendor for now. However, if you want to focus on PvP, then you should probably pick something from the Crucible Vendors at first. Everyone requires Reputation before you can purchase Purple equipment from them. Your Class Vendor requires Vanguard Rank 2 for Armor pieces, and Rank 3 for Weapons. Crucible Vendor requires Crucible Rank 2 for Armor, Rank 3 Weapons. Factions requires Rank 2 with that Faction to purchase Armor, Rank 3 for Weapons. How Do you get reputation? Ah, now we are getting to the Grinding. Vanguard (PvE) rank is simple: you can do Strike Playlists, which will put you in a random Strike, and you will earn Rep AND Marks (Marks are the currency used to purchase equipment). On the Left side of your screen will be a "Daily Heroic Story" which will award bonus Vanguard Marks once a day for completing that specific Story mission Hard Mode. Below that is a Weekly Heroic Strike, which will also award rep and marks, but is limited to once a week. You can also do Vanguard bounties and Patrols for reputation. You are capped at 100 Marks a week though, but you can grind until you get Rep 3 all you wish. For PvP, it is set up pretty much the same, except you just have to participate in the Crucible to get Marks and Reputation. You can also do Crucible specific Bounties to increase your Crucible Rep. As you can see, this is why it helps to pick which mode you want to focus on at first, since you are going to have to grind rep with either Vanguard or Crucible to 2 and then 3, and then use the Marks to purchase gear. Ah, but what about Factions? Factions (Dead Orbit, Future War Cult, New Monarchy) are a bit trickier since they require their own Rep, AND Crucible Marks to purchase items. If you wish to go that route, simply purchase one of their Class Armor items when you hit 20 (should be the only thing you can actually purchase), equip it, and start earning Rep by the same way you earn rep listed above, but now it will count towards that Faction, instead of Vanguard or Crucible rep. What's the level cap? Well, technically there isn't one. Once you hit 20, you stop gaining levels from Experience points. Instead, your post-20 levels (21, 22, etc) are based on your GEAR. Specifically, a new stat listed on higher level gear (usually Blues) thats called "Light." When you equip a piece of equipment with the Light stat on it, it is like adding a small bit of XP to your progress bar to 21. Equip enough pieces with Light, and you will hit 21. You must seek out better gear with even higher Light stat numbers on them to level to 22, then 23, etc. Its a long process to say the least. Also, dont forget to upgrade your gear, because it will also increase the Light stat number on that piece of gear, getting you ever closer to the next level. Edit...picture explaining Light Level: http://imgur.com/aUN5QFP As you can see, i have "28" points in Light, and the Bar is about 75% full, so im guessing i need 40 Points I need 32 points of Light to hit 22, so i need gear with an additional 4 points of light combined to hit level 22. This game is designed for the End-game grind (like most MMOs are). You will want to upgrade your gear so you can do harder missions, which in turn will drop better gear, and more marks and reps to allow you to buy the bestest gear. Or, you can just play nothing but Crucible, grind rep, do Crucible bounties, get your Marks and purchase them that way. In either case, it is a grind. So good luck!! Stretch616, TigerBurge, Plumbers Crack and 2 others 5 If you decide to put your dick in crazy, be ready to change your phone number and relocate. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch616 697 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Nice explanation of it all. Can we sticky this for a bit please admins? Very useful info in here Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerBurge 2,375 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Nice explanation of it all. Can we sticky this for a bit please admins? Very useful info in here Done Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techno 3,511 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Nice post its just my head hurts now Plumbers Crack 1 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsinOwl 644 Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 The discomfort is temporary Gary. I recommend two aspirin and a glass of chocolate milk. techno 1 If you decide to put your dick in crazy, be ready to change your phone number and relocate. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techno 3,511 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I'm sure like with everything else it all becomes clear when the time comes....hopefully Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baabcat 1,646 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Should hit level 20 tonight, so thanks for the guide! Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbers Crack 4,062 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Nice post! Thanks to Capn_Underpants for the artwork Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_C_Scipio 395 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Do you have to complete the story before being able to see the daily and weekly stuff? I haven't seen anything like that. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch616 697 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Do you have to complete the story before being able to see the daily and weekly stuff? I haven't seen anything like that. No. Just hit lvl 20 JsinOwl and L_C_Scipio 2 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsinOwl 644 Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 Stretch speaks true, I haven't finished the story yet and all that stuff opened up when I hit 20. There's lots of fan-fare; like you've just been invited to sit at the grown-up's table. If you decide to put your dick in crazy, be ready to change your phone number and relocate. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_C_Scipio 395 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Sweet. I'm only at 11 so far but looking forward to it! Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberninja2601 1,106 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I'm at lower levels as well. I think played less than 10 hours so far. By the time I'm level 20 you guys probably will have done the entire game a couple of times Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerBurge 2,375 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm half way through level 18 and have 13 hours played. Don't know if that's good or not. I've been doing a lot of bounties Cyber. You get a lot of xp from them Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsinOwl 644 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Bounties are definitely the key early on. I managed to hit level "21" by simply equipping and upgrading some Rare gear. If you decide to put your dick in crazy, be ready to change your phone number and relocate. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch616 697 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I managed to hit level "21" by simply equipping and upgrading some Rare gear. I noticed this last night. The light stat will improve as you improve your armour. So what is stated as the current light stat is not the end. So sometimes it would be worth putting on lesser light stat gear in order to level it up so it will eventually be an improvement. I'll post back later but i have fully upgraded rare gear at lvls 17, 18, 19 & 20 so i can let you know the finished light value. This may help you decide how to go about things Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerBurge 2,375 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Got a Legendary bounty today. It's for the pulse rifle. Going to be a bitch to grind that out. May need some help from people especially to do the PvP part JsinOwl 1 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crippled_viper 258 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Got a Legendary bounty today. It's for the pulse rifle. Going to be a bitch to grind that out. May need some help from people especially to do the PvP part Do you mean "Exotic" Bounty?? Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerBurge 2,375 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Do you mean "Exotic" Bounty??Yea exotic bounty. I picked the one for the Bad Juju rifle Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch616 697 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Light levels for fully upgraded rares (blues) by level: Lvl 17 = +7 Lvl 18 = +9/10 Lvl 19 = +13 Lvl 20 = +15 This is only what i can see from my Warlock at the moment but i hope it serves well as a rough estimate for you Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techno 3,511 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 This made an interesting watch. : Plumbers Crack, TigerBurge and BO7H B4RRELS 3 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO7H B4RRELS 2,453 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Good video, thanks. techno 1 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baabcat 1,646 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 http://www.gamespot.com/articles/destiny-guide-to-level-20-and-beyond/1100-6422423/ Thought this was a decent guide Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_C_Scipio 395 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Guide to getting legendary gear http://tay.kotaku.com/a-guide-to-obtaining-and-upgrading-legendary-gear-in-de-1636451289 TigerBurge, Plumbers Crack, JsinOwl and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsinOwl 644 Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 Good shit Nolan! TigerBurge 1 If you decide to put your dick in crazy, be ready to change your phone number and relocate. Link to comment https://forevergaming.co.uk/forum/forums/topic/1700-beyond-level-20/#findComment-42463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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