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I see the conspiracy theorists have jumped on the bandwagon around the net bang on time with some very flamboyant claims whilst hiding behind their keyboard stirring up theories despite not having concrete knowledge of the events. It only takes one speculative comment and suddenly everything gets twisted and misconstrued as it multiplies and spirals into more outlandish tales. Seems to be the same people who said the Boston bombing was a performance of a smoke grenades, fake blood and a cast of paraplegic actors.
 
Whilst there is a lot of bullshit in the world and things we don't know and are within our rights to be suspicious about; I find some of these remarks online extremely disrespectful and offensive. Even the father who spoke bravely after hearing his son got gunned down was branded an actor as his son was taken into hiding.  Can't people just accept this happened the way it did and there is no ulterior motive behind the tragedy? I don't even want to mention the tragic events of Sandy Hook and what was spoken about that.  
 
It may be early days in the investigation but this wasn't some upper echelon farce to manipulate and engineer laws. It's a common tragedy and this happen in this day and age around the world every day. 

but you dont know that from a news report. you dont know exactly what his mental health problems were or what treatment he had/was recieiving
 
So then why is "not guilty by reason of mental defect" an allowed defence in a criminal trial. Again. People do not choose to be mentally ill. It is no more of a choice than being born with black skin, or being born gay.There are certain circumstances where a person is not responsible for their own actions, (some) mental health issues being one of them. 
with regards to gun control : It is far easy to blame a shooting on a "mental" person or a "psycho" , rather than face the fact that Americans gun laws clearly still have some issues.

Suggesting that he killed 6 people because of his (possible) mental illness also perpetuates stereotypes surrounding mental health. People with mental illnesses are more likely to victims of crime, not perpetrators.
 
If you label a killer as "mentally ill" and fail to address any other factors involved, the killer is no longer held responsible for his actions. He is provided with a perfect scapegoat, and it propagates the idea that mentally ill people are dangerous.
 
Also, out of all the articles I read about this, plenty of them were quick to mention mental illness, yet few of them even touched on that this kid felt so entitled to women that he killed people. 
 
 
I don't know about you guys, but this is quote doesn't sound unfamiliar to me at all. I hear boys whining about girls not giving them the time of day, even though they're a 'nice guy,' and how girls 'only go for douche bags.' This kind of thinking is rampant, and its dangerous. I mean, just last month a girl got stabbed for turning down a kid to prom.
 
I wonder how many of these incidents need to happen before people realize that something is wrong.

I think the underlying problem here is the allowance of someone with mental health issues to own a gun. Having such a weapon can increase the risk to themselves and others. These should have been confiscated until he was determined fit post-treatment. 
 
Regardless of the gun issue; he still stabbed 3 people first so perhaps the systematic failure is not just gun control but allowing him in society. Sure he was recently assessed but considering how stretched the services are and how everyone seems to be all treated the same when mentally ill; more detail needs to go into ensuring the well-being of the person and others around them. It'll be interesting to see what his doctors and the officers who visited say in their reports and whether this incident could have been prevented. His mental state could have deteriorated severely in recent days or perhaps he was able to hide his real intentions and mask everything as fine. 
 
Allowing him a gun is very irresponsible under the circumstances for me and this needs to be addressed. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-27562917
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ZEjruo5eI
 
https://www.youtube.com/user/ElliotRodger/videos
 
This is gonna further fuel the gun control debate. Personally I don't think it's wise that someone who is being treated for mental health illnesses to have custody of guns regardless if they are owned legally. They should have been confiscated particularly under the advice of family and after his recent alarming behavior. A tragedy for all parties involved. I don't know what the mental health services are like in the US but here in the UK; they are desperately underfunded and many homegrown murder-suicide incidents still occur with disorders being a proven factor in the reports. 
 
It's a tough subject and lessons will be learned but each person and incident has to be based on its own merit. Taking away his guns still wouldn't have prevented the stabbings and after being assessed by deputies; they were operating in their remit to allow him to remain in the community after no immediate threat was identified up on a recommended visit. This will be scrutinised to buggery no doubt.
 
Elliott Rodger could have easily gone on a knife-wielding rampage alternatively and perhaps done more damage than with the guns in an area so the guns can't be entirely to blame but the bottom line is his risk to the public would be greater enhanced with them. If his family suspected he was a threat in which they did alert police; should they have taken steps for his safety and brought him home and does this fly-by visit by deputies work effictively? They are doing what is asked and although they determined no threat; it was wrong.  I don't believe they were to blame as Rodger could have conned them and I firmly believe they did their work under the correct criteria laid out in such circumstances. 
 
Perhaps incidents like this are completely non-preventable and more needs to be done for people with mental health issues and quicker also particularly if they demonstrate the alarming behaviour Elliott did in the 24 hours before his rampage. I think they need to address gun ownership with people who are at, or pose a future risk i.e the mentally unstable but overall; is this a failure of many parties or just something that could happen to anyone, anywhere? 
 
 

pretty stoked.  Jack Johnson's my island homeboy.  (this is a music festival held at Government Center in Boston.)

ATTENTION NERDS:  X-Men Days of Future Past changed my life and made me a better person.
 
that's it, have a good weekend.

Aww, shiet...
*rips off costume and runs away*

If I was an actual girl, my last name would be Tanaka by now. <3

pretty stoked.  Jack Johnson's my island homeboy.  (this is a music festival held at Government Center in Boston.)

Ha you guys have no idea what wasting money is. A little respect please, make way, for I am Steve, Lord of the money wasters
 
I present to you..... the money pit. Owned this 69 gto for 14 yrs now, have sunk over $20+ grand into the chassis/body and now 14 yrs later I still love old cars but don't really have a desire to have a drag only style car. So I plan to put it up for sale in the next couple months. Even though I have around $20k into it (not to mention TONS of hours of blood sweat & tears) I will be lucky to pull $4,500 back out of it because that's all the resale value of a drag car like this will bring.

crvena-zastava
 
derp, didn't notice Palle had answered. I need to get better.

YOU'RE an actual girl.  (i wish.)
 
 
 
i think you just out-Auptyk'd me.  oh wait, you used a smiley.  immediate disqualification.
 
 
 
"Yup, bottom line blah blah blah . . ."
 
the shoe.  it fits.

I'll spend Monday like I have for the past 9 years.
 
I'll wake up and go to the same parade I have been going to since I was a little kid. At some point during the parade my wife will ask when I'm going to walk or ride in it, and I'll dance around an answer by telling her "maybe someday."
 
At some point during the parade I'll wander off and find a place where I can be alone and I'll end up breaking down in tears as I think about my friends who didn't come back from Iraq, and their families and their kids who have to endure this day with out their husbands and fathers.
 
I'll eventually make my way back to the parade and watch my daughter grab candy that is thrown from the floats, pretending to have a good time.
 
After the parade I'll get home and start setting up for a picnic that I always have at my house. The day will go on as usual, and as usual I'll drink myself into oblivion, call 3 or 4 of my buddies that I still keep in touch with from the Marine Corps and see how their day is going - usually the same as mine - Hating life and pissed off at all the people who look at this day as just another day off from work and a reason to get drunk with their friends.
 
At some point later on in the night I'll black out and pass out - hopefully in my bed.
 
And if it's a really special day, like the one 6 years ago, I'll wake up around 2:30am, take off my clothes, grab my car keyes and tell my wife I'm going to play golf and I'll be back in a few hours. (true story)

This calls for a forum meme.

mmm.  yeah.  just feels right, you know?
 
 
 
don't push it old man, i'll fight you.  (sorry that was the Auptyk in me.)

those threads are where i first learned how dudes act when they think they're talking to a girl online.  fascinating.
 
 
 
we should have Auptyk Day.  like a day where everyone condescends to each other about everything.  could be fun?

Fixed that for you!

YOU'RE an actual girl.  (i wish.)
 
 
 
i think you just out-Auptyk'd me.  oh wait, you used a smiley.  immediate disqualification.
 
 
 
"Yup, bottom line blah blah blah . . ."
 
the shoe.  it fits.

mmm.  yeah.  just feels right, you know?
 
 
 
don't push it old man, i'll fight you.  (sorry that was the Auptyk in me.)

those threads are where i first learned how dudes act when they think they're talking to a girl online.  fascinating.
 
 
 
we should have Auptyk Day.  like a day where everyone condescends to each other about everything.  could be fun?

those threads are where i first learned how dudes act when they think they're talking to a girl online.  fascinating.
 
 
 
we should have Auptyk Day.  like a day where everyone condescends to each other about everything.  could be fun?

I miss most those guys. Hell, I even miss Auptyk at times
 
We were all dicks to each other at one point or another, but
~Stands up on Soap Box~
 
We were a group of guys, nay, a Band, working towards the common goal of having fun, shooting bitches in the face and jaw jacking ideas.
 
We grew together, like a family.
No! We became tighter than a family, we became a
 
Band of Brothers!
 

sup Glen.  (or Sean?)
 
 
you and the missus are quite cute with your euphemisms.

enough time has passed now where i feel like i can say, "i really don't like that MKUL7RA fellow." 
 
yeah.  i said it.  screw that guy.