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I just got some by entering his boss room so I have one insight now

Cool, okay so what you can do is if you are struggling with the technique on your own, then ring your bell just outside the boss part. Wait until someone joins up and then you should find someone that will help you get past it. It's always worth trying to beat tye boss on your own a few times but don't be frightened to use insight.

Keep timing your rolling to dodge attacks and make sure you have enough vials to get through the fight. It is a great game once you get into it - you just have to get past this and start levelling up your character.

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