My "art"

[Docwagon 856]

  On 6/29/2014 at 9:51 PM, Kent said:

It looks like an alien virus struggling trough a bad trip with a moustache gone wild.

 

I did not think "mustache".  Looks like a virus with a baby maker in need of a shave.

[Palle 491]

  On 6/30/2014 at 1:05 AM, Docwagon said:

I did not think "mustache". Looks like a virus with a baby maker in need of a shave.

Didn't see that when I zoomed in on my phone

That's one alien baby maker

[JsinOwl 644]

Just placed an order at dickblick.com (tee hee) for painting supplies.

 

 

I've put a monumental amount of research into this; it is by far the most complicated hobby I've ever gotten into. That includes setting up a small recording studio. It is bewildering the different types of paint alone (acrylic, oil, water, water-mixable oil) but then different grades and properties within a type: transparency, lightfastness, pigment type/cost, consistency. Then there's the surface—canvas, linen, board—and all the prep that goes with it: sealing, priming, coating with gesso (or not), and coating with a base film (or not). There are different philosophies when it comes to a color palette: 3 primaries, 6 color split primary, 6 color secondary, and son on. People can't even agree on how to thin paint, like oil paint for instance, do you use mineral spirits or turpentine or a mixture of solvent and linseed oil, what should that mixture be, is it different for different layers of the painting. Finally the tools, brushes, knives, easels, palettes and figuring out what works for oil on board to achieve the result I'm going for.

 

Next step: hit Home Depot for some masonite board and primer. 

[tronic44 3,642]

Painting supplies? Yeah yeah yeah, that's what you tell the missus when Dickblick pops up on your bills

 

All i know is i'm looking forward to more painting from yourself Good luck to you dude, sounds like a lot of effort, time and money needs to be put into this.

[Docwagon 856]

  On 6/30/2014 at 4:50 PM, JsinOwl said:

Just placed an order at dickblick.com (tee hee) for painting supplies.

 

 

I've put a monumental amount of research into this; it is by far the most complicated hobby I've ever gotten into. That includes setting up a small recording studio. It is bewildering the different types of paint alone (acrylic, oil, water, water-mixable oil) but then different grades and properties within a type: transparency, lightfastness, pigment type/cost, consistency. Then there's the surface—canvas, linen, board—and all the prep that goes with it: sealing, priming, coating with gesso (or not), and coating with a base film (or not). There are different philosophies when it comes to a color palette: 3 primaries, 6 color split primary, 6 color secondary, and son on. People can't even agree on how to thin paint, like oil paint for instance, do you use mineral spirits or turpentine or a mixture of solvent and linseed oil, what should that mixture be, is it different for different layers of the painting. Finally the tools, brushes, knives, easels, palettes and figuring out what works for oil on board to achieve the result I'm going for.

 

Next step: hit Home Depot for some masonite board and primer. 

 

 

Blah blah blah technical words.  When do we get to see alien baby makers on canvas?

[Palle 491]

There is a lot of stuff to choose from... No need to overcomplicate stuff though, if you have never been into this before. My dad has been a hobby painter for over 30 years and all he uses is a regular white canvas board and oil paint.

[JsinOwl 644]

  On 7/1/2014 at 10:30 AM, Kent said:

There is a lot of stuff to choose from... No need to overcomplicate stuff though, if you have never been into this before. My dad has been a hobby painter for over 30 years and all he uses is a regular white canvas board and oil paint.

My personality requires that I over-complicate things. That's just how it is. I need to understand things as much as possible even if I then turn around and simplify it. I enjoy learning about things anyway, so doing the research was part of the fun. I'm going for a very specific effect and I was trying to figure out the best way to accomplish that.

 

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Blah blah blah technical words.  When do we get to see alien baby makers on canvas?

Not for the foreseeable future because I'm going to try painting on board.

 

Pre-stretched canvas is way too rich for my blood, and doing all the stretching and preparation myself is more effort than I'm willing to put in at this point. When I started looking into this, I recalled seeing a lot of oil paintings done on wood in museums. Sure enough, not only is it possible, it has some advantages and is far more economical.

[Docwagon 856]

  On 7/1/2014 at 3:33 PM, JsinOwl said:

My personality requires that I over-complicate things. That's just how it is. I need to understand things as much as possible even if I then turn around and simplify it. I enjoy learning about things anyway, so doing the research was part of the fun. I'm going for a very specific effect and I was trying to figure out the best way to accomplish that.

 

Not for the foreseeable future because I'm going to try painting on board.

 

Pre-stretched canvas is way too rich for my blood, and doing all the stretching and preparation myself is more effort than I'm willing to put in at this point. When I started looking into this, I recalled seeing a lot of oil paintings done on wood in museums. Sure enough, not only is it possible, it has some advantages and is far more economical.

 

http://www.wholesaleartsframes.com/canvas-panels/

[JsinOwl 644]

Your link is to Canvas Panels, which occupy a sort of middle ground between stretched canvas and board. I checked out that site and found that after shipping, the cost is about double what a board and primer would be on a per square inch basis. The cost is still reasonable, so I may get some anyway just to try it out. Stretched canvas is what's really expensive and is considered by most to be the "standard" format for oil painting. Whatever that means. 

 

My goods have shipped and are due to arrive Saturday the fifth; I didn't realize FedEx delivered on Saturdays.

[Docwagon 856]

  On 7/2/2014 at 3:11 AM, JsinOwl said:

Your link is to Canvas Panels, which occupy a sort of middle ground between stretched canvas and board. I checked out that site and found that after shipping, the cost is about double what a board and primer would be on a per square inch basis. The cost is still reasonable, so I may get some anyway just to try it out. Stretched canvas is what's really expensive and is considered by most to be the "standard" format for oil painting. Whatever that means. 

 

My goods have shipped and are due to arrive Saturday the fifth; I didn't realize FedEx delivered on Saturdays.

 

I know.  i did a little bit of painting in school for my required art classes.  Stretched canvas is too expensive, but the canvas panels are "real" canvas and can easily be framed, should you choose to do so.  Most folks won't know the difference to look at it.

[JsinOwl 644]

Do have pictures of said paintings?

[Docwagon 856]

  On 7/3/2014 at 2:18 AM, JsinOwl said:

Do have pictures of said paintings?

 

Nope, like many of my personal possessions, they were lost to the ages when I went overseas.  I enjoyed it, although I couldn't afford oils outside of class and didn't like acrylics much so I quit.

[JsinOwl 644]

Do you have any advice, witty anecdotes, or stories of tragic romance you'd like to share on the topic of painting?

 

 

Have you painted on both stretched and glued down canvas? Recall the differences? Once I realized I could paint on just about any piece of wood, I didn't look much further into surfaces, especially since I'm in the beginner/learning/my-shit's-probably-gonna-suck phase. If I have success, I'll be willing to invest more $.

 

With the advent of teh interwebz, you can get decent quality paint at a modest price. Modest as in, less than half what you'd pay in a brick & mortar store for the exact same products.

[Palle 491]

Those glued down canvas(es?) are what my dad have used for a very long time. He offered me some oil paint and other stuff for painting that he doesn't use anymore. I'm curious to see what I could do with it with actual brushes and color.

[JsinOwl 644]

I love color and the 'qualities' of color in the same way I love sound. Half of music to me is simply the quality of the sounds—and I don't mean the quality of the recording. I mean the properties of the sound, it's timbre, harmonic richness, etc. 

 

 

Paint something dude!

[Palle 491]

If I would make a paralel of music and types of color, right of the bat, I would compare acrylics to the likes of modern music like Rihanna, Bieber and stuff like that. Oil paint is like Jimi Hendrix or Creedence Clearwater Revival.

Don't ask why.

[Palle 491]

I used acrylics when I was a kid. I think they suck compared to oils.

[Docwagon 856]

  On 7/3/2014 at 10:25 PM, JsinOwl said:

Do you have any advice, witty anecdotes, or stories of tragic romance you'd like to share on the topic of painting?

 

 

Not really.  I did it, but it was never a high priority in my life.  It was something I had to do, learned I enjoyed a bit, and then moved on pretty quickly due to expense and other priorities taking precedent.

[JsinOwl 644]

Supplies arrived today and everything was in order. Well done dickblick.com. I also have two MDF panels 2' x 4' x 1/4" thick cut up into a variety of sizes and I just put the last coat of primer on.

 

Tomorrow this ship pushes away from the dock...

[NCA-Paendrag 2,769]

God speed!

[Palle 491]

Dickblick. lol

[JsinOwl 644]

My first three attempts at oil painting.

 

#1

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This was done entirely with a palette knife and consumed a shocking amount of paint.

 

#2

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Tried using a brush but the paint was too thick, thinning with turpentine turned everything into a failed experiment. Cleaning the brush made me think that I'd rather go back to knife work.

 

#3

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Once again, done entirely with knives but I thinned the paint with a medium made up of talc and linseed oil. Paint flowed much better and I didn't need nearly so much as in picture #1.

[Docwagon 856]

I like #1 and #2.  If you think #2 is a failure, feel free to send it to me.

[Palle 491]

Number two is my favorite (...hello out of context material). If you look at it from a bit further away, it resembles a face (neanderthal maybe) encapsuled in ice. To me at least...

[Docwagon 856]

I already called it.  Owl, my birthday is just around the corner.  Just sayin'