Found this incredible compilation of all the levolution events and destruction in Battlefield games since 2011. Some of these still look absolutely spectacular especially the BF4 ones a decade on. Remarkably impressive technically even now and they look and sound incredible!
Got a bit limited since BF1 and really started to feel flat up to 2042. Despite the silly terminology, these destructible elements added so much and even radically changed maps on the fly. DICE were really at their peak with things like this and I think it was taken for granted a bit back in the day and largely went unappreciated because we assumed that this is how gaming should be and where it expected to be now. Battlefield 2042 even after all the work still remains soulless and bland in this respect and it’s levolution events amount of mere inconvenience most of the time.
I really hope the next Battlefield game goes back to these roots. No more WW2 titles or gimmick futuristic ones. BF3 and 4 just oozed unmatched atmosphere and detail.
MW2’s combat is punchy but 2042’s just feels rapid in comparison so you don’t really get a sense for the guns other than they’re extremely OP. Don’t think I’ve ever played a BF game where the guns feel so light and unauthentic. The movement also feels strange and it just makes the whole experience feel like a freebie sandbox created in something like Unity.
Today BF went back to the old class system, plus a bunch of other stuff. Too little too late for most but I'll certainly give it a go.
If anything, it does bode well for the next title at least especially with fresh developers working on the game. So many stupid and unnecessary changes made in 2042 to start with along with the utterly lousy execution. It somewhat resembles a BF title now but still a bit to go before they can say job done. Need to go back to A to F singular sectors on new maps too IMO as opposed to C1/C2 etc..
After playing MW2, guns really look like they lack punch though even when compared to previous games and I'm not too keen on the engine currently but if they can start the next game where this is finishing then maybe there is some hope for the future.
batttlefield has always suffered from execution problems
I remember removing BF4 to come back to it a year later because it ran so poorly. After than it was awesome
Didn't like any of them after that.
DICE needs a kick in the ass to get developers to get it somewhat right the first time
Yeah, I stopped playing Battlefield 4 within the first week because of the netcode issues and other bugs. Just when I thought it was safe to return, the invisible wall glitch materialised so I left it a good 6-7 months and upon returning, the game was slowly improving and when it was finally perfectly playable, every expansion had been released and there were over 80 weapons so it was a remarkable package overall.
Battlefield Hardline was just lame and BF1 was pretty stable but just not for everyone. Battlefield V was another major disappointment - awful relationship brewed between the developers and community and we received a fairly broken game upon launch and with them spending a good year on fixing that, we missed out on several pre-planned expansions.
BF2042 took the absolute biscuit though with so many staple features missing, conceptual woes and some really odd design choices. With all DICE's experience and research over the years, it just defies belief how they released it in such a state and the decisions they made. I just hope next time they can get it right day one rather than year one being a case of trying to get to square one.
Looking a lot better these days but I dunno if it's too late in the day. At least it'll give some confidence for the next title especially with all the staff associated with the OG 2042 literally all gone. The team that's taken over have done a pretty good job and there's been an upturn in players of late thanks to free weekends on Steam, discounts and people returning. Still needs a good 12 months to complete the overhaul I'd say and the guns really lack punch compared to COD now, but they may be able to salvage something and go out with some pride.
Some of the maps look a bit better but in all honesty all they've done is add a few containers, barrels and ammo boxes for cover and moved a few trees around. It's really desperate and tragic although they do look less open and barren now. It's also taken way too long for this to happen - DICE were already working on their 5th map expansion pack by now for BF4 yet in BF2042 they only have about 3 new maps in 11 months. It's pitiful really.
I still think the textures look extermely low quality and plain and the game is desperately missing map-changing levolution elements and naval maps. The team that's taken over the game are clearly working hard but there's just way too much to be done to turn this around whilst DICE who fucked this up every step of the way are currently working on their new game.
The new map is excellent, highly recommend trying it out. Such a shame its only one. If that's all there's going to added map-wise until September, they'll have left it too late to save this game.
Battlefield 4 was already on its 4th map expansion by this stage🤣
BF4 Premium was one of my best purchases - the base game had some devastating technical and performance issues but once that was fixed to a degree and the new content started rolling it, it was an absolutely sensational package with guns galore and varied maps. It's such a travesty we don't get anything like this now especially with them not being burdened by having to deliverer paid map packs. Players really got screwed over with BF5 because we missed out on at least 8 new maps because they were busy trying to fix all the issues the game had. It's even worse now because they have to make the new content away from the conceptual flaws whilst under feedback guidance from the community. What a pickle!
I can't see too many people returning for this as the damage has been done. It's also more to save their own skin legally that to redeem themselves with the community. Despite several major u-turns on game design and philosophy, they are still determined with Specialists and will probably use game as a testing platform to see how it can be implemented for the foreseeable. Pity because the new developers working under Zampella know exactly what's required to make a BF title but they are still heavily in EA's pockets.
Further development on Hazard Zone has ceased - as to be one of the worst mode implementations ever! It was leaked back around December that the game mode was deemed internally 'dead' with only a handful of players, less than one hour of retention and the few that played it only trying it once. So much for BF's attempt at Tarkov filler.
400 fixes but not one piece of actual content - Battlefield 4 was already on it's 4th map expansion by now and that's not forgetting 40-odd new guns and hundreds of attachments to work through🤣
I quite like the interface changes but let's be honest, this is how it should've looked from the very start and no real difference to previous games. Not much to celebrate in this respect and it's astonishing how they managed to mess this up so spectacularly.
No matter how many fixes they make though, the game is just too conceptually flawed. Every map for starters needs to be cut down by 60% and still reworked plus lobbies should be 64 max for the most typical BF experience. Every match seems to be riddled with bots too.
This game would struggle to get 10,000 at a time on all systems even if it was free. They've also been bloody lucky Vanguard and Warzone has been utter shite but the new COD will surely kill it for good. God knows when the Ultimate Edition owners will finally get their stuff...
The people that are working on the game now largely weren't responsible for this absolute shit-show so they will probably improve it to a degree but it wont matter in the long run and it's just too far gone to salvage.
Looks like they're dropping this game completely as I hear they're taking about a new Battlefield already.
Will be a cold day in hell before I buy another EA product if this is true.
It's probably the best and only option. They can spend another 12-18 months trying to beat this dead horse with improvements or turn attention and funnel all resources into a brand new game. The key people behind 2042's core design have already long left the company so it would be a bit unfair on the likes of Zampella and his team to clean up the mess they didn't create to no avail. I just hope people who blindly bought into the ultimate editions get refunded in some way but this is the biggest lesson in existence for people not to pre-order and get overly-hyped for the next game. Even if they did rework the game and make sweeping improvements, it would've been very difficult to capture any significant audience even as a free to play experience because of the damage done.
They need to bring it back to Battefield instead of chasing outdated and saturated trends whilst copying rival games. The brand has had very little comparable competition in two decades so it defied belief they abandoned all the staples of the series and its values. The fact 2042 has made Battlefield 5 look amazing in comparison is truly frightening too! The series will have one last throw of the dice (excuse the pun) and talking of that, I hope DICE plays no part. Vince and his team need to lead the next one.
EA is "looking at all the options" to restore Battlefield 2042's player numbers, including some form of free-to-play access.
Definitely the most logical move and practically what everyone was expecting but even then, it would only be viable if it had a worthwhile backbone that people could invest in and players could be enticed to try it. It would also need a solid premium aspect where EA could make money and Ultimate edition owners feel they got their money's worth. When the game had a free to play week on Steam, it could only muster 36,000 players tops which was 64% down from 3 weeks previous when the game was a paid release, so much work needs to be done just to make it worth people's time let alone money. The risk is, if the game also struggles as a F2P title then it could have a horrible effect on the brand going forward including EA pulling the plug on the series altogether. Season 1 also being delayed until March at the earliest hasn't helped engagement.
Personally I would refund the Ultimate Edition owners the difference between than and the base game, make it F2P, sack DICE and make Ripple Effect primary developers and then just turn focus onto the next game.
Scoreboard coming next month and it's not going to be called any 'legacy' bullshit either. It's the real deal although it does look a bit nasty in terms of colours and bloat.
Cannot believe it's taken 4 months to get the most simplest feature into the game. It's also been an absolute shit-show between the developers and the community majority on getting this in with Vince Zampella saving the day it seems.
It's been revealed that they stopped tracking Hazard Zone last month because the numbers were so tiny. There's been suggestions from data that a minority of users have tried it once and then never again. Also Portal mode last week had 552 players globally at peak with crossplay enabled - these figures are absolutely shocking. Season 1 (whatever that entails) likely wont be out until March either and from now until then, there's God of War PC, Horizon Forbidden West, Total War: Warhammer 3, Dying Light 2, D2: The Witch Queen, Elden Ring, Gran Turismo 7 and Forspoken. Bear in mind that when this game was trialed as a F2P on Steam late last year, it mustered 36,000 at best which was half as much as Farming Simulator and down 64% on release less than a month previous. The Battlefield Direct Communication Twitter hadn't tweeted since December 18th until two days ago after immense pressure from the community to restore Rush - that's one Tweet in almost 1 month from the key community relations department. Meanwhile the community manager seems oblivious and is busy asking users what weekly challenges they want to see!?
Ultimate Edition owners are also waiting in the dark regarding their 'premium' content whilst others are wondering if it'll go F2P soon. I honestly don't know what they can do to salvage this game now.
Shake ups sometimes are needed and lets hope that this will give the franchise what it needs, although I don't think they were as far off the mark as some of the biggest critics say. This game has a great foundation and just needs continued tweaking, just like most successful live service games.
Portal has the potential to be a gamechnager.
A shake-up was not needed in the slightest and isn't what most people wanted because it removes Battlefield's core design and identity and places it into the generic and saturated territory. Portal isn't a 'gamechanger' either - it is LITERALLY the normal/proper Battlefield experience that people expected and ultimately wanted. The fact it is so popular and the best part of the product just shows how flawed 2042 is. Portal is true Battlefield and the 'experimental' 2042 portion should be the tacked-on mode. DICE really got it arse about face and everyone who made these critical design decisions have left the company a week after release and the game is now under new management.
Battlefield's traditional design is timeless and unlike Call of Duty, it doesn't need to evolve in any respect other that in terms of visuals, the engine and content. There was absolutely no need to tamper with the design aspect and the only reason they have done so is for revenue streams and PR - two elements that don't benefit the game or gamer.
Where do people stand on skins? Is the main reason why people hate them is because it feels an easy money grab or the fact they don't fit into the game environment? If its the latter, I kind of think to myself its not really something I give two shits about as it adds an element of fun to a game. Warzone introduced Rambo and John McClane which worked quite well I thought. Makes you want them more tbh! lolz
I don't mind skins as long as the core game works and they don't make the game/brand look like an embarrassment. Some of the skins in games over the years have been absolutely pathetic quality yet others have given people something to work towards or purchase. The specialists in Battlefield which are the basis of the skins themselves are absolutely flawed and it seems the designs just make them look worse. Maybe if they hired some competent game designers who didn't resign in the first week and then some visual artists to competent their creations with expansive skin designs then it would be great. Sadly these devs just seem to roll in-house, get someone to knock something up without thought and then they try and monetise it.
Fortnite is a great example of quality through collaborations and marketing. Warzone is making similar strides. 2042 is about 6 years out of date with generic and embarrassing material.
People seem to misunderstand me. I don't pay full price for incomplete products or defective products. This isn't just games, it's everything. My tolerance for shit products or service is zero, and I'll stand by that until I die.
I used to be a lot more forgiving, but once the penny drops that companies just abuse your forgiveness and tolerance, it's a slippery slope as evidenced by the last few years in the gaming industry. Anthem, Cyberpunk, Warcraft Reforged, GTA Remastered, to name but a few.
Then Battlefield 2042 would be the worst purchase you could possibly make. I have no doubt people have had fun on this game but it's broken in many respects, heavily incomplete, conceptually flawed and fundamentally terrible. This is off the back of many problematic Battlefield launches already yet people seem to treat broken and unfinished as the acceptable standard these days. This is by far the most alarming release in the series and possibly in gaming. The fact staple features are missing or worse than prior games is what I find absolutely unforgivable. If it's not in the game now and they plan to add it later then the game is not finished and it's unacceptable. Lack of destruction and squad features is just pitiful for me and makes everything feel like a barren sandbox.
Give it a year and it'll be revealed that this game was in development hell, only had 1 year of actual development and DICE had no clue what they wanted to do with it. 5 people including the Head of Development have already left the company within the first 2 weeks of launch and they are already pushing an in-game store on users when the game needs 6-18 months of basic work. It was revealed that they've already lost 70% of players in two weeks and will probably have less than 5,000 by January on PC. This is before Warzone Pacific has been released and it's not like the game has much competition right now either. Good job they put bots in the game!
Vince Zampella has now taken over which is great news though but he's not a miracle worker. He may save the Battlefield name but probably not this game going forward. There are way more deserving games out there of your time and money. I recommend watching the Angry Joe review - it's about 2 hours long and only covers a fraction of the issues but it's damning to say the least. I absolutely love Battlefield and have enjoyed all their games for almost two decades but this game houses everything wrong with the industry and society across the board.
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Found this incredible compilation of all the levolution events and destruction in Battlefield games since 2011. Some of these still look absolutely spectacular especially the BF4 ones a decade on. Remarkably impressive technically even now and they look and sound incredible!
Got a bit limited since BF1 and really started to feel flat up to 2042. Despite the silly terminology, these destructible elements added so much and even radically changed maps on the fly. DICE were really at their peak with things like this and I think it was taken for granted a bit back in the day and largely went unappreciated because we assumed that this is how gaming should be and where it expected to be now. Battlefield 2042 even after all the work still remains soulless and bland in this respect and it’s levolution events amount of mere inconvenience most of the time.
I really hope the next Battlefield game goes back to these roots. No more WW2 titles or gimmick futuristic ones. BF3 and 4 just oozed unmatched atmosphere and detail.
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