Sennex 1,903 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 This is shitty to write folks, and I am seriously upset about this. Someone was a dick to Private_Parts, and I have no idea who it was. (It was not the person who's name was tossed around the server, I can state this as a fact, see below) I have delved into the player Inventories, as well as the Server logs, and with the recent changes to how MC runs, there is no smoking gun here. There are a few suspicions, but I can't ban folks based on that. So, our options are to continue playing how we are, with zero real logging, and then add it in as they are updated or I roll us back to the world I created for 1.6.4, with all the logging, and player protections in place and tested out. Its up to you guys. Edit Additional Information: Yes, you will lose your builds yes, there will be a breakin period of a few days where we ensure that the plugins are working yes, this is huge PITA Yes, it could quite possibly be worth it I will close the poll Thursday morning at 7am CST (GMT-6). Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chookes 965 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I'm assuming it's a closed server, i.e., only forum members and invitees? If so, this is a really shitty thing to do to one of our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 I'm assuming it's a closed server, i.e., only forum members and invitees? If so, this is a really shitty thing to do to one of our own. Yea, it is a closed server, and yea, its pretty flippin shitty Sure I could give PP all his stuff back, but nothing stops it from happening again to someone else Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO7H B4RRELS 2,452 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 That's really shitty. I'd rather stay with what we have and update it as it comes. Shouldn't take that long before all the updates/modes/etc. are out, right? But, I'm not too far along though, so if we do roll back, I won't cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 It could be up to 2-3 months before we have things updated. Seriously, thats a basic time estimate, it could be longer, it could be shorter. Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO7H B4RRELS 2,452 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Oh wow... I was thinking a week or two. Didn't realize it took that long. I'm fine w/ rolling it back then if that's what people want. This sucks to even have to discuss though really. Damn, why can't people just not be dickheads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 Yea, it is not a fast process, not by any stretch. Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison 202 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordie1892 681 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I've spent ages on my house and mine as well as finding a horse I love. If it has to be done, it has to be done, however I really hope it doesn't come to restarting. Harrison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Cal 461 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I've only just started getting stuff in order but if it means better security, I'm all for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 I've spent ages on my house and mine as well as finding a horse I love. If it has to be done, it has to be done, however I really hope it doesn't come to restarting. We all have spent about 5 days on our various places. This poll is set up to ensure that assholes can't come in and destroy or take your stuff. Ultimately I will leave it however, but think for a moment how pissed and hurt you would be if you logged in, and your chests were empty. We currently have no way of knowing who swiped your stuff, or punishing the offender. Would you even keep playing on the server if you knew you couldnt' trust everyone? Hell, I have zero desire to try to build something anymore. Whats to stop some jackhole from ripping me off, or covering my house in lava or something equally juvenile? Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordie1892 681 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 We all have spent about 5 days on our various places. This poll is set up to ensure that assholes can't come in and destroy or take your stuff. Ultimately I will leave it however, but think for a moment how pissed and hurt you would be if you logged in, and your chests were empty. We currently have no way of knowing who swiped your stuff, or punishing the offender. Would you even keep playing on the server if you knew you couldnt' trust everyone? Hell, I have zero desire to try to build something anymore. Whats to stop some jackhole from ripping me off, or covering my house in lava or something equally juvenile? I completely understand, I was pissed off myself when Harrison told me. But 20 odd diamonds, a house (which I'll post pics of later), a horse with armour a farm etc took me forever. Would you be able to give me some building materials to start up again if we restarted? Maybe meet in the middle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Cal 461 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'm sticking with a yes vote. That was my fam that got robbed innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen11 51 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Whay happened? If the person just came forward and maybe and apology then that would help, no? Can you see who has all been on the server since Steven was last on? BO7H B4RRELS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordie1892 681 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Whay happened? If the person just came forward and maybe and apology then that would help, no? Can you see who has all been on the server since Steven was last on? Apparently there's a few people it could have been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen11 51 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 He should just put the names out there and go from there. If theres only a few it could be then it cant be that hard if they wont admit it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordie1892 681 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 He should just put the names out there and go from there. If theres only a few it could be then it cant be that hard if they wont admit it He says he has no idea if you read the OP. Plus it's proably unfair on those who are innocent to be unfairly accused. The more I think about it, I'd be fine with restarting if I could just get some stone wood and sand to start off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen11 51 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I did but surely if he has a few suspicions then he must have reason? I dont mind starting again either, all ive had is 11 blocks of wood from trees I chopped down, but lost when I died to a spider. Will take me ages to get that back jordie1892 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 please change your votes as your mind changes Also, I don't have an issue sharing building resources at the start of the game, hell I gave Cal some enchants, and a few others as well. (Not to mention beds, steak, and other crap) But, before I agree to doing that, I want to kick it up to Dave, its ultimately his server. While I don't think he will care, and while I know he is more pissed at this than I am, I still want to check. Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chookes 965 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Are there any non-forum members on the server? I'm just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordie1892 681 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 please change your votes as your mind changes Also, I don't have an issue sharing building resources at the start of the game, hell I gave Cal some enchants, and a few others as well. (Not to mention beds, steak, and other crap) But, before I agree to doing that, I want to kick it up to Dave, its ultimately his server. While I don't think he will care, and while I know he is more pissed at this than I am, I still want to check. Sounds good, my lazy ass didn't want to go digging and chopping again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison 202 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 2 joined who only have 1 post, i think they are Daves Day Z buddies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 I did but surely if he has a few suspicions then he must have reason? I dont mind starting again either, all ive had is 11 blocks of wood from trees I chopped down, but lost when I died to a spider. Will take me ages to get that back For transparency I will respond to this Here is my list of suspects: BO7H_B4RRELS Cathalyte Clarkey1990 Dr_anthony Egotisti_Cal Harrisano MCSpooze MrSpooze NextGenSnake cirathorn jordie1892 vegasnitesx Seriously, at this point, from how the new MC version stores data, this is what I have to work with. Not trying to be a dick, but even the player.dat files are different. I can see that you have inventory, and how many items and if they are enchanted, but I can't tell you what those items specifically are. The server log for chests is also radically different. Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen11 51 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 If you can see inventory I guess i'm no longer a suspect haha Judging by the names, there are a few I know it wouldn't have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sennex 1,903 Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 you didn't get he meaning of my post I can see that you have inventory, and how many items and if they are enchanted, but I can't tell you what those items specifically are. See the problem now? you could have 12 blocks of wood, or 12 stacks of 64 blocks of stone, it looks the same to the .dat file because of how it is laid out. I also cannot see world chests at all. Therefore everyones name is on the list, including my own. Luke 23:34 'And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they don't think it be like it is, but it do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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