GazzaGarratt 10,867 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Okay. Well, breaking the annual mould of releases is what we all wanted i'm sure, but I didn't expect it to go this far. I'm not sure how to feel at the moment considering PES has given me so many great moments when I was a kid. Free 2 Play, and its starting to gradually roll out content over the course of the year. Frustratingly, they need to review the game modes as they really could take the mantle off FIFA if they put a version Pro Clubs in there. I also feel like it removes any pressure off of FIFA making their product the best it can be. The game might feel completely different when we try it out but I can't deny that trailer looked a little shite if i'm honest. Roadmap is below: I suppose we can all at least try it out when it becomes available so we can fully say if it is the right path to go down or not. J4MES OX4D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil bottle 9,567 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 PES has been the superior game for a while now in terms or gameplay and actually feeling like it's trying to simulate playing the sport so I'm more hoping the new engine doesn't ruin that side of things. If the game play goes backwards I'll be hanging up my boots 😁 J4MES OX4D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 9,778 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 They have a battle pass in a football game😂 As I said in the FIFA thread, this is an absolute disaster - they've killed off an iconic and highly established brand and replaced it with this e-shite. The colours are nauseating and the prospect of what's on offer makes me sick too. PES was the only brand that Konami had left that they hadn't wrecked but now it looks like they've completed the set. PES was brilliant in the 90's and then 3,4,5, and 6 were the best football games in existence. After a miserable transition into the 360/PS3 gen, they began to slowly turn it around and in the last 4 years they've salvaged the brand and took it as far as they could with the Fox Engine that was still way ahead of FIFA. They've given all that work and recognition up for fucking microtransactions. Thankfully the fantastic PES 6 modders will be out in force and working overtime to deliver a better game as they always do and it's great to see younger people turning to that too who never got to play it vanilla back in the day. RIP PES FUCKonami phil bottle and GazzaGarratt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Findmartin 233 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 It feels like such a shame, as lee and james said above it was the best game back in the days of offline play. The local play and master league was just awesome and fifa got nowhere near it for me. But I kind of understand why they've done it from a business point of view, because under the old model of annual releases they just cant compete with fifa unfortunately because of the licenses and wider appeal. Even I moved to fifa this year and have really enjoyed playing pro clubs with so many of the FG lot (i was persuaded by lee and I was hesitant to buy it initially). However like phil says above, pes is/was still the better game of football (fifa is too fast, too end to end, too much BS skill moves and pace) but unfortunately gameplay alone was no longer enough. Will be good to play some online games of e football with everyone though if we hopefully give it a go as its free J4MES OX4D and GazzaGarratt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 9,778 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I'm beginning to think this shitty 'online test' they did a few weeks ago is actually legit eFootball gameplay now and it looks absolutely atrocious. It looks like a mobile game. I reckon the Unreal transition has been a failure and the game being so shit they know they can't charge or it and don't want to tarnish the PES brand so the renamed it. That's my conspiracy theory🤣 GazzaGarratt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 9,778 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Been playing vanilla PES 6 today via PCSX2 and this game still rocks! There's no scripting, the ball physics are entirely dynamic and no goal is ever the same. Can't wait to play eFootball where I have to pay for teams just to use in a friendly in the Konami Stadium and when I win, I unlock a new sock on the battle pass and gain some XP so I can grind out unlocking legends like Ruud Von MIstelrom and Roberto Larcos! Apparently master league will make its ways to eFootball as paid content but wont be available until later and there will only be 9 teams on release. Imagine not being able to play a mode day one that you've been playing for 25 years straight... GazzaGarratt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil bottle 9,567 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Every time I read this thread my heart breaks just a little bit more. 💔 Konami eh😅 GazzaGarratt and J4MES OX4D 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Findmartin 233 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Oh dear 😥. Oh man pes6 that was a real good one. Think that was the Adriano one with his bullet 99 shot power 😍. I remember on master league slowly upgrading all my players and it was always castolo and miranda who I kept no matter how far I got in the game cuz they were ledge! GazzaGarratt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 9,778 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Trailer looks horrendous. Colour scheme is mortifying plus the few snippets of gameplay look really sluggish just like we’ve seen in the ‘test build. It’s basically PES 2021 on a different engine to accommodate mobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil bottle 9,567 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Just the way the ball moves is horrifying. What the hell are they doing 🤨 GazzaGarratt and J4MES OX4D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 9,778 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 53 minutes ago, phil bottle said: Just the way the ball moves is horrifying. What the hell are they doing 🤨 I hope it's just a case of a shit trailer because the ball movement looks dreadful as does the slidy animations. PES had probably the most accurate representation of ball physics I have ever seen but now it looks like a bowling ball is being lumped around. GazzaGarratt and phil bottle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 9,778 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Bare Bones eFootball Launch Content Detailed, Out 30th September WWW.PUSHSQUARE.COM Favourites for relegation - Konami's controversial football sim eFootball will launch for PlayStation 5 and PS4 on 30th Se... What an absolute travesty. phil bottle and GazzaGarratt 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 9,778 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Looks woeful. Horrendous ball physics, sloppy animations, mechanics look slippery and in general it looks like a sluggish mess GazzaGarratt and phil bottle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaGarratt 10,867 Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 I expect slower gameplay to what FIFA offer, and in most instances that is the better way to go with an alternative football game but I can't disagree with your statement James. So gutted that we won't see PES continue in their better form via the games they've given us. J4MES OX4D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil bottle 9,567 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I'll reserve judgement until I get a chance to try it out but yeah I'm hoping it's not as bad as it seems 🤨 GazzaGarratt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 9,778 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 days to go and still no public gameplay... phil bottle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 9,778 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I've played a few matches and I have to say, this game is absolutely atrocious. It's basically PES 2021 but the mobile version for PS5 and PC. The Unreal engine changeover offers absolutely no immediate benefit and the game looks no different than to last year. The ball seems really heavy yet its movement does not reflect how it was played most of the time and passing itself is very unresponsive and inconsistent - the amount of interceptions either by you or the AI is huge. The players feel like they are stuck in mud and the way they collide is like two drunk guys walking home from the pub! Eyesore menus, horrible interface and a threadbare free portion of the game, no different to their usual demos. Konami have undone all their good work over the last decade and have set the game back to around 2008. I can't see them recovering this anytime soon and they've also given EA an undeserved open goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 9,778 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 G_dub52 and GazzaGarratt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil bottle 9,567 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I had a quick go on the PS5, the football is ok but there's no game to play except online. Didn't realise it would be that bare boned. A mate of mine who's ranked in the top 0.5 PES players told me today he might have to go to the dark side 🙃 GazzaGarratt and J4MES OX4D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 9,778 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Efootball is currently the lowest rated game in the history of Steam eFootball and its weirdass faces is the worst-reviewed game in Steam’s history | PC Gamer WWW.PCGAMER.COM Not sure they can come back from this Clive. I'm actually shocked it's got such a high score of 8% positive tbh! GazzaGarratt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBaguette 787 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Haha this doesnt surprise me at all. There are still rumours of fifa 23 going down the free to play route though, probably going to follow warzones model as they make a shit ton on microtransactions.. the gaming industry is just fantastic isnt it GazzaGarratt 1 cba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBaguette 787 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 17 hours ago, J4MES OX4D said: It also looks like someone made this in garys mod as a joke J4MES OX4D and GazzaGarratt 2 cba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 9,778 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 G_dub52 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil bottle 9,567 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 It'll take them a couple of years to get this new engine running properly. 2021 will have to last me a while it seems 😁 J4MES OX4D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4MES OX4D 9,778 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 8 hours ago, phil bottle said: It'll take them a couple of years to get this new engine running properly. 2021 will have to last me a while it seems 😁 It'll probably take them a good couple of years at the very least just to get back to square one with what they achieved on PES 2021. Maybe even longer if 2008 or 14 were anything to go by. They've essentially just ported the entire old game into the new engine and hoped for the best and are now having to work with unfamiliar architecture. They'll probably have to re-write their entire animation library and do the ball physics from scratch because so far its pure ragdoll collision and wayward ball movement. Kinda serves them right for not investing in a new in-house engine years ago for when the Fox Engine because outdated. Now they have to go the off-the-shelf route with Unreal. At least U4 can port into Unreal 5 but they need to get the basics done first. Konami just love peaking and then going back to the bottom rinse and repeat! GazzaGarratt and phil bottle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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